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I notice at least one of your students is citing Wikipedia in their article. As I expect you | I notice at least one of your students is citing Wikipedia in their article. As I expect you know, the whole rationale for Citizendium is that Wikipedia isn't reliable... so to cite it in Citizendium articles is, errrr, inappropriate! :-) Sure, using it as a tool to find material is fine (it has much good/useful content), but not as an authority. Can you please pass the word to them (which is probably easier for you to do in class than for me to do electronically)? Thanks! [[User:J. Noel Chiappa|J. Noel Chiappa]] 08:46, 6 April 2008 (CDT) |
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Some workgroup help
A few words about workgroups
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What are workgroups? To answer that question, I'd like to give you a quick tour.
- Start by checking the various workgroups we have at CZ: List of Workgroups. This link can also be found in the left navigation-bar in the 2nd box (Project Pages), 3rd link in that box (Workgroups). The Workgroup Home(s) can be found in the 2nd column in the List of Workgroups.
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Welcome
If I you need help, leave a messaqge on my talk page. I'll try. Regards, Nancy Sculerati 12:18, 27 April 2007 (CDT)
Wonderful to see you at work, so quickly. Nancy Sculerati 15:27, 27 April 2007 (CDT)
Image problem
Hi. We appreciate very much your contributions to the Citizendium. I was hoping you could help clear up a matter about the images you recently uploaded. They are lacking clear copyright and source data and need to have it as soon as practicable to avoid deletion. To fix the problem, please review the images you uploaded (click on "my contributions" at the upper-right to re-trace your steps or see the links I added) in light of Images Help—Copyrights. If you need additional help, just ask a constable or leave a message on my talk page and I'll be more than glad to assist. — Stephen Ewen 20:14, 27 April 2007 (CDT)
Hellow
Another microbiologist-geneticist. Fabulous. Welcome to the wiki. David Tribe 19:32, 27 April 2007 (CDT)
Yup. I'm him. G M O Pundit hisself. Ill check out Your blog now. David Tribe 20:02, 27 April 2007 (CDT)
ooooh. Cooool. Evilutery biology and phages. Cut my teeth on Mu and P1 and upside down Y. Reading quite a bit about phage ( eg Villareal). Got student's writing stuff on cyanophage, and cre-lox as we type. Ill link to your blog from my teaching websites. Microbe Pundit and a Microbes Wiki! ( the second hidden within the entrails of a University server).
I basically wrote Horizontal gene transfer in prokaryotes but it really needs more work. But it does have a pic of Joshua L. I teach a course in Microbial Cell biology too. looking forward to your activites David Tribe 20:09, 27 April 2007 (CDT)
- Are you THE phage in a test tube evolution guys? I glanced at one of those papers once. I heard Josh talk once in Madison Wisconsin. Agressively confident and lucid. Gotta go now David Tribe 20:27, 27 April 2007 (CDT)
- Couln't resist checking out your CZ phage page. I teach with Mike Dyall-Smith who's into phages of halobacteria, and has just come back from a meeting near Nice, where there was talk about phage therapy moving forward David Tribe 20:33, 27 April 2007 (CDT).
- Mike just sent me a photo of Steve A. coming out of the house they shared at the Nice conference. Small World. David Tribe 07:01, 30 April 2007 (CDT)
Images
Hello Dr. Dennehy. I am glad to make your acquaintance. Please do us a favor and revisit the upload pages of the following images you recently uploaded:
They are lacking licensing/copyright data. For help, see Help:Images#Copyrights. For further help, just ask me on my talk page. Thanks, Stephen Ewen 23:46, 29 April 2007 (CDT)
- Let me know at any time if you wish help in uploading and documenting images. Regrettably, undocumented images cannot long stay on the wiki. We need at minimum to know their source and licensing and have that documented on the image upload page. Stephen Ewen 04:46, 16 May 2007 (CDT)
Suggestion
Im sure that youll want to get your phage article approved in the near future. Dont hang back, and as soon as you feel like it give me a call via my user page and Ill help ush it through the system. David Tribe 01:29, 16 May 2007 (CDT)
Probably need to first find a phage image to replave the lambda one some darn constBLE HAS PULLED OUT GIVING RED LINKS. hAVE YOU ANY? (OOOPS)David Tribe 15:03, 16 May 2007 (CDT)
Now I was trying to be as nice as I could about it. :-) ---Stephen Ewen 18:20, 16 May 2007 (CDT)
phage
In Phage I was thinkin g that some mention of phage display and panning techniques would be good in other uses. Its m13 or fi pgage they use there isnt it David Tribe 15:59, 16 May 2007 (CDT)
OK. Lets Roll. Ill propose it for Approval, and we can fight out the minor grammat tweeking and other quibbles over the next week. David Tribe 18:01, 16 May 2007 (CDT)
(Dont forget to use you 4~s) David Tribe 18:01, 16 May 2007 (CDT)
orright its up. Expect a week of annoying but useful comments (but quite likely there's only 5 people who can say much). The people who know little are most helpful. They (plus Nancy) point out the jargon and fine clarity issues. I've stood back, as proir to this being a significant contributor would hamper me being seen as being at a distance, but I might now try and find glitches if I can. David Tribe 18:12, 16 May 2007 (CDT)
Thx David, my first CZ article out for peer review!
Plaques
Just realised it would be nice to have some plaquues in the Phage article. Mike Dyall Smith has an image of his, and Ive just emailed his for permission to use it. But if you have one it would be good to load it up. Not essential, of course, but nice.
cheers David David Tribe 03:48, 20 May 2007 (CDT)
Mike's Image is of halophage. Hmmm. David Tribe 06:36, 20 May 2007 (CDT)
cochlear hearing aid
really interesting! thanks for showing me. Nancy Sculerati 18:51, 16 May 2007 (CDT)
Favor to ask-imprtant
John I have nominated DNA for approval- it needs a lot of work. Could you kindly help me? Nancy Sculerati 12:35, 8 June 2007 (CDT)
DNA
I just wanted to let you know some other authors and editors were working on another version of the DNA article. I linked it from the main article. I think their comments can be tracked via the forums and the talk pages. Tom Kelly 22:30, 8 June 2007 (CDT)
I had no idea that there were two articles, there should never be a draft article of anything but an approved article. Here is a message I have put on other talk pages:there is a DNA/Draft and a DNA. The system of draft articles is strictly to allow for unprotected versions of approved articles to keep going on the wiki. Now, there are two different DNA articles, and -it's a mess. Please help, we need to put recent edits from DNA into DNA/draft and get rid of the title DNA/draft by moving the article DNA/draft to DNA. If you ever notice an author making a draft article of an unapproved article please stop them. In this case, we could have had no problem by just having named DNA draft DNA in the first place. Anyway, please help? Nancy Sculerati 11:04, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
Felx d'Herelle
Ive read the draft with interest. It looks ready to nominate for approval to me, which I will do if you indicate that your ready for that. David Tribe 14:50, 17 June 2007 (CDT)
- I've been polishing this along with struggling with DNA. It could use a little more polish, but I was going to ask you to put it up for approval. Looks like you were thinking the same thing. John J. Dennehy 16:39, 17 June 2007 (CDT)
Antibacterial
This page appears to be a copy and paste of Wikipedia's article antiseptic. When importing articles from Wikipedia, please follow CZ:How to convert Wikipedia articles to Citizendium articles and copy the source, not the display, to avoid the many problems currently evident in the article. Please work on this article soon. James A. Flippin 14:19, 21 June 2007 (CDT)
I see that you have done the same with Germ theory of disease, Cholera, Habitats, Ganges, Jumna, and Enzyme. These all need to be significantly improved soon or they will be put up for deletion. James A. Flippin 15:42, 21 June 2007 (CDT)
Importing Wikipedia Articles
When importing articles from Wikipedia, please click on "edit this page" at Wikipedia and copy and paste the wiki code from the edit box into Citizendium. This preserves the formatting, such as bolding, sectioning, references, etc. and makes the pages much easier to work on later. James A. Flippin 18:35, 21 June 2007 (CDT)
James, we might have to go back and get the June 15th version. It seems that the editors at WP were deleting content and that is why John imported them quickly. Any chance you can help do that? --Matt Innis (Talk) 18:54, 21 June 2007 (CDT)
Actually, John, maybe there are better versions than the 15th. I.e. for Germ theory of disease there may be a version that you want before they started to mess with it. Do you see one? --Matt Innis (Talk) 19:38, 21 June 2007 (CDT)
- I'm certainly willing to help him go through the histories at Wikipedia and import the versions he likes best, but I have no way to gauge which version should be imported. John, please contact me on my talk page or e-mail me if you'd like my help. James A. Flippin 19:49, 21 June 2007 (CDT)
Inclined?
I placed To approve tags on both Twort and D'Herelle. Ive actually read Martin Arrowsmith a looong time ago. David Tribe 23:42, 21 June 2007 (CDT)
Frederick Twort
Congratulations on your good work! It was my pleasure approving that one. Keep going!! --Matt Innis (Talk) 21:03, 25 June 2007 (CDT)
Wiki Research
Thanks for your completed survey. James Sutton 08:47, 26 June 2007 (CDT)
DNA again
Ive dropped a note at Chris Day proposing to approve DNA. If three of us say yes, we could get it approved. What do you say? David Tribe 19:35, 1 July 2007 (CDT)
- I'm with you David. I read it this morning and it is looking very nice. John J. Dennehy 08:16, 2 July 2007 (CDT)
DNA
I slapped "Nancy" 's To approve back on DNA. Please advise if there is dissent. David Tribe 02:46, 6 July 2007 (CDT)
Ganges
Dear John J. Dennehy, I came across your article about Ganges when preparing a set of articles on European rivers, and I have moved it to Ganges River (a redirection remained at Ganges). This is because a general agreement is being formed that river articles should include the word river in their titles. The reason is that very often other geographical and other terms are named after rivers, and such agreement can save us some work and confusion. For more information, you can refer to this Section on my talk page. In other respects, the article has not been modified. Best Regards, Igor Grešovnik 12:06, 17 January 2008 (CST)
Eduzedium template
Hi, I was somewhat bold and went ahead and added instructions to your class page about how your students ca put a template at the head of their articles which will mark them as an Eduzendium effort, and also stop other editors/authors from fiddling with them while your students are working on them. I hope I haven't offended by doing that directly, as opposed to just telling you how to do it. If so, sorry, just trying to be efficiet! J. Noel Chiappa 09:46, 10 March 2008 (CDT)
- Thanks! much appreciated --John J. Dennehy 09:50, 10 March 2008 (CDT)
- You're welcome, glad to be of asssistance! J. Noel Chiappa 10:12, 10 March 2008 (CDT)
Article name consistency?
Could you make sure your students are naming things consistently? Some are using caps on both words in the organism name, one named their article Hepatitis C Virus (capital V) which I'm pretty sure is not right, etc. Typos inside the article aren't too hard to fix, but article names are a bit more of a pain... Thanks! J. Noel Chiappa 08:19, 11 March 2008 (CDT)
- OK Ill try!--John J. Dennehy 08:27, 11 March 2008 (CDT)
- Here's another one: we have both Human papilloma virus (HPV) and Human Papilloma virus (the latter being a student article) - and no Human papilloma virus! Sigh, article should probably be at the last, and all the others redirect to it. Let me know if you want me to get that all straight. J. Noel Chiappa 23:23, 13 March 2008 (CDT)
- Early on I tried with a few others to help create a system to avoid this, along with the general disorganization and inconsistency we see with Eduzendium pages, but we kept getting stopped. Here is a useful tool I made at that time. Stephen Ewen 06:09, 14 March 2008 (CDT)
Existing article?
Umm, did you notice that Parvovirus already existed? (Although it is rather stubby, I concede...) J. Noel Chiappa 09:29, 17 March 2008 (CDT)
- yes, I think a lot more can be added to Parvovirus. --John J. Dennehy 10:32, 17 March 2008 (CDT)
Another one: one of your students deleted the entire existing content of Helicobacter pylori - was that the approach they were supposed to take? J. Noel Chiappa 22:36, 29 March 2008 (CDT)
- well I told them to "be bold". Lets wait to see how the editing of this proceeds. I told her she should significantly improve the present (deleted) version. --John J. Dennehy 12:43, 31 March 2008 (CDT)
taxonomy box
John, I see you started a page for zoster. You might consider putting in a blank taxonomy info box for the students to help them get started. You can find one example at West Nile virus, but I'm sure more complete ones can be found at other articles, perhaps some of the snake articles for example or even the Dog page maybe. David E. Volk 15:43, 18 March 2008 (CDT)
- OK I will try to add this to the student's pages.--John J. Dennehy 15:04, 20 March 2008 (CDT)
Student confusion
Having a clickable section [edit] button next to the clickable link "Student Microbe list" on the CZ:Biol 201: General Microbiology page was probably confusing them, which is probably why their organism list entries kept winding up on that page. I made a small change to get rid of that possibility; hope I didn't irritate you by just forging ahead and making the change myself. J. Noel Chiappa 10:22, 27 March 2008 (CDT)
- It was a poor format by myself, the addition makes sense. Thanks! Be bold right:) --John J. Dennehy 10:49, 27 March 2008 (CDT)
- Again, you're welcome, and glad to help. J. Noel Chiappa 19:36, 28 March 2008 (CDT)
Thrichomonas vaginalis
I found a few web hits for Thrichomonas vaginalis at places that seemed like they should know what they are talking about... or is this just a typo on your student's part? J. Noel Chiappa 21:55, 2 April 2008 (CDT)
- typo John J. Dennehy 05:55, 3 April 2008 (CDT)
- Im not sure if Dalia realizes that there is a Trichomonas vaginalis article. --D. Matt Innis 08:28, 3 April 2008 (CDT)
- Thanks for noticing. I didnt see it because of the misspelling. --John J. Dennehy 08:49, 3 April 2008 (CDT)
- Arck! Sorry, I'd noticed you'd created Trichomonas vaginalis, so I assumed you'd realize that Thrichomonas vaginalis was a duplicate article. If you all move the content from Thrichomonas vaginalis to Trichomonas vaginalis, we can turn the former into a Redirect; since sites like NIH have that misspelling, it's probably a relatively common typo, one that's worth keeping. Let us know when it's all cleared out, and we'll fix it up and cart everything else (e.g. Talk:Thrichomonas vaginalis) off to the e-trash. J. Noel Chiappa 10:55, 3 April 2008 (CDT)
- I dont think there is any real content on Thrichomonas vaginalis. I put the redirect in. --John J. Dennehy 11:00, 3 April 2008 (CDT)
Citing Wikipedia
I notice at least one of your students is citing Wikipedia in their article. As I expect you know, the whole rationale for Citizendium is that Wikipedia isn't reliable... so to cite it in Citizendium articles is, errrr, inappropriate! :-) Sure, using it as a tool to find material is fine (it has much good/useful content), but not as an authority. Can you please pass the word to them (which is probably easier for you to do in class than for me to do electronically)? Thanks! J. Noel Chiappa 08:46, 6 April 2008 (CDT)