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Welcome, new editor! We're very glad you've joined us. Here are pointers for a quick start. Also, when you get a chance, please read The Editor Role. You can look at Getting Started for other helpful introductory pages. It is essential for you as an editor to join the Citizendium-Editors mailing list in order to stay abreast of editor-related issues. If you wish, just ask me to create a "personal sandbox" for you where you can test out editing and writing articles. If you need help to get going, it is a good idea to join our discussion forums. That's where we discuss policy, proposals or technical problems. You can ask any constable for help, too. Just put a note on their "talk" page. Again, welcome and thank you! We appreciate your willingness to share your expertise, and we hope to see you begin actively editing and contributing to Citizendium. Milton Beychok 01:19, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Congratulations on your Editorships !!

Congratulations Maria! You have been confirmed as an Editor in our Classics workgroup, Literature workgroup and Philosophy workgroup.

Please take the time to read and to study all of the articles available at the blue wiki links in the above Welcome message. In particular, the one entitled The Author Role is very important to study in depth,

You should also read these motions passed by our recently elected Editorial Council: [1], [[2] and [3]. The three of them all relate to the role and the qualifications of Editors in Citizendium. Take your time to study and to understand them ... and then implement their requirements if applicable. If you need help understanding any of the three passed motions, contact Hayford Pierce, the Secretary of our Editorial Council.

Again, congratulations and enjoy yourself here! Milton Beychok 01:40, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Thank you! It's great to be here. In a previous career lasting a decade I worked as a programmer at a PBS affiliate [Web] so I'm hoping that the minimal coding here is a puzzle I figure out quickly! I'm reading the links you suggested, plus I already created a page. Now I need to figure out the meta and talk pages. And maybe join some work groups. Fun! --Maria Cuervo 03:42, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
Hi, Maria, great to see you here -- we could sure use some Lit. Editors! Although my own contributions (and interests) are determinedly lo-Lit.: strange to think that the trash fiction I used to read 50 years ago (and then wrote for a while) is now the entire composition of the NYT bestseller lists! Whatever happened to *serious* writers who were for the first eight decades of the 20th century the only people reviewed? And to sell? On the other hand, who remembers A.J. Cronin and such-like? Hope you enjoy yourself here -- and maybe someday I'll try to get you to Approve some of my articles such as Mr. Calder and Mr. Behrens and The Headmaster -- there really isn't much to add to them, I would say.... Hayford Peirce 04:43, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
I'd be happy to Hayford. As well, I hope that any of you feel free to point me on a better path since I am, like Socrates, still learning to "know myself," in this case, learning to know Citizendium! --Maria Cuervo 19:16, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
Congratulations and welcome! Although my editorship is in the "dismal science", I have a strong amateur interest in philosophy, and it's great to have a professional among us again (our founder was well qualified in philosophy, but he is no longer active). When you have a moment to spare, you might like to glance at my attempt at a philosophy of economics - which is much in need of improvement. I am even more of an amateur in literary matters, but I am a Tolkein junkie - having read the Lord of the Rings 4 times and watched the film twice! I'd love to see a CZ article about him. But I hope you will do what interests you here, and enjoy doing it. In my experience it can be absorbing and satisfying, and it has me in touch with interesting colleagues all over the world Nick Gardner 06:30, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
Maria, congratulations on your many wide-ranging accomplishments, and thanks for bringing your talents and interests to Citizendium. I look forward to following your work and learning from it.
I've spent most of my 70+ years focusing on chemistry, biology, and the health sciences, but always distracted by the history and philosohy of those subjects, so I've contributed in those latter areas as well, with many articles still under very slow development. I would welcome your thoughts and input. Best wishes. —Anthony.Sebastian 16:07, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
Hayford, are you saying you do or do not want to see A.J. Cronin works? I've read two books of his and didn't think of them as serious or not, but I liked them. :-) Howard C. Berkowitz 04:33, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
Thank you to all. A warning in philosophy is that it is a discipline that centers on arguments. And philosophers like to argue in both senses of that word. I myself do not care for arguing in the mundane sense but I like to distinguish fine points. I look forward to the wonderful company and exchange of ideas. If anyone has pages that they would like for me to look at, please give a shout. I am still a novice around here and might not have all the hallways scoped out.--Maria Cuervo 04:43, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Simply amazing!!

Maria, the speed at which you learned about wiki markup coding and about how to create a metadata template and an article "cluster" is simply amazing!! There is no other word for it!

Keep it up and keep enjoying it. - Milton Beychok 17:59, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. I'm suspecting that I am missing a few boats and getting wet but so far, so good! Just the little I did reminded me of how much there is to do. Many terms and words I thought should be there, are not. I'll be working on that. Many of the terms will have applications in other disciplines, periods of history, literature, etc., so this type of groundwork will not be in vain. I plan to avoid borrowing content from others since there is really no need to do so, except perhaps in the use of free domain images which enhance the text or article.--Maria Cuervo 19:18, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
Just one thing. I note that you have not included any references at all for any of the articles that you have already created. If the problem is that you have not yet assimilated how to create embedded in-text references, then I suggest that you read this help article: Help:Index/Formatting/References. Regards, - Milton Beychok 19:27, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
Yes, I had not tackled this yet and had not found the page explaining how to do it. :] While I was figuring out how to do the basic editing, I started to write some basic content. I too noticed the glaring lack of references. I'll start to work on that next, before adding more content. --Maria Cuervo 22:17, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
Good to see you here, Maria. Thanks for your note: I've replied on my Talk page. Ro Thorpe 17:17, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
So Shakespeare is medieval nowadays? Ro Thorpe 01:54, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
A fudged borderline. An Early Modern text let slide through. My group was chaired by a professor interested in monsters and the strange in Medieval imagery. Winter's tale had a sufficient link to this to be deemed relevant.--Maria Cuervo 03:34, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Comment about philosophy as a discipline

Philosophizing is a contentious activity in that often the mundane sense of arguing bleeds into the better sense of the word's meaning. I would like tot think that philosophers are most interested in the difference between their thought than in coming to an agreement. I wonder to what degree this [contention] is the case in other fields. --Maria Cuervo 04:50, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Quite a lot, I suspect. Academics tend not to get paid to say the same as everyone else. Peter Jackson 09:42, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

A new Classics author has joined

Maria, a new Classics author has joined: User:Christopher Digby-Rogers. You might want to write a welcome message to him on his talk page. (I'm contacting you about this because I'm a Citizendium constable and am therefore one of the people who sees and approves the new accounts). Bruce M. Tindall 18:44, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Welcome back!

Glad you finally made it! Hayford Peirce 20:45, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

Thank you! Will have to relearn how to use everything but excited to do so. Maria Cuervo 20:53, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
A lot of people stand ready to help. This isn't rocket science, though, so you shouldn't have much difficulty! Hayford Peirce 21:15, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
A good thing too! I'm not good with mechanical stuff, except maybe putting together and taking apart computers!! :] Maria Cuervo 20:53, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
I got this broken down computer....j/k. Anthony.Sebastian 04:48, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
Smile. That is not good Anthony. I'd offer to help but.....never ever will I ship a computer. Built a really nice computer for my son. Twice. From scratch. Sent it first UPS, then FEDEX the second time. Both were messed up when they arrived. Both had been well-packed. :) It's now in a shop near where he lives and someone else has to rebuild it. Anyway, building computers is not very ladylike so I should keep that to myself!


Nice smile. Assume you knew "j/k" means "just kidding". Anthony.Sebastian 02:29, 18 January 2012 (UTC)
I didn't even see that but yes. Duh on me. :]

My web-site!

Maria, I read your comments about my web-site at the Editorial Council wiki. I had a problem with the people who designed it and I may not be able to attend to it till the end of February due to an exam, but I am a qualified, licensed Homoeopathic Doctor in my country. You may want to see the matter at http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Homeopathy#Regulation Regards, Ramanand Jhingade 17:37, 16 January 2012 (UTC)


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Philosophy and economics

Maria - I have been thinking about your suggestion on the talk page of History of economic thought, and here are some thoughts for your consideration.

  • I feel sure that you will want to change Karl Marx, I don't really understand his economics but I could swat it up and do a paragraph. What do you think - add, edit or rewrite?
  • Then there's David Hume. As I recall he had something to say about induction - neglected in the article. I could contribute the missing paragraph on Hume's economics.
  • You will see that John Stuart Mill was mainly my own work (he is one of my heroes), but I feel sure that it would benefit from your edits.
  • I would like you to cast a critical eye over Philosophy of economics. I have long intended to draft the paragraph on the assumption of rationality, especially in view of Kahnemann's Thinking, fast and slow - which, incidentally, is an article you might want to edit.
  • I have been wondering whether Milton Friedman's advocacy of instrumentalism may have led economists into the error of reasoning on the lines of "if it was true for the last fifteen years, it will always be true", which was a mistake that (arguably) led to the Great Recession - see Sources of risk-management errors. You might consider changing the instrumentalism definition into an article?

What do you think?

Nick Gardner 10:44, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Nick, I would most certainly like to edit the pages you mention in collaboration. Having a concrete task in view gives a scope to what I could be doing on CZ, narrows the field. As well, it is wonderful to collaborate...having someone to work with on the pages immensely improves quality. Marx is a vast subject so his philosophy involves not only repercussions to the field of economics but economics is a starting point. I think we could first tackle Marx, Hume, Mill, one at a time, then move to the others. When I get home from campus I will read the CZ pages for these and comment further. Kahnemann is very interesting. Thank you for mentioning that. I have to go teach so I'll check in later. In answer, I think this sounds swell!

Maria Cuervo 11:25, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

See my suggestion on the talk page of Karl Marx Nick Gardner 20:26, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

Maria, Please insert a sentence or two on the influence of Karl Marx on philosophy in the intellectual impact paragraph of the Karl Marx article. Nick Gardner 15:02, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Will do. Note that the blurring of the lines between disciplines is one of the findings of contemporary theory. Whether in practice this effect is accepted is a separate question. The impact of Marx on philosophy includes several threads and more than one debate. It's a topic that might warrant its own page. I'll attempt to gesture to it in a few sentences in the next day or two.--Maria Cuervo 16:41, 5 April 2012 (UTC)


P.S. In my brief contribution, I will primarily focus on Continental French Marxism, being less familiar with Marx's legacy in the "Analytical Marxism" of English Philosophers. --Maria Cuervo 17:13, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
I just checked and wish to note that WP has an article on Analytical Marxism but not on 'Western' or French Marxism. I am in the middle of drafting (in Word) the shortest possible exposition of the Intellectual legacy, albeit from the French philosophical perspective. I'll post it as soon as possible. Much compression is involved and I am gathering references. --Maria Cuervo 19:09, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Some philosophy articles

Maria: As one with some interest n philosophy, perhaps you would consider remarking upon one or more of the following new or relatively new philosophy articles?

  1. Analytic-synthetic distinction
  2. Internal-external distinction
  3. Meta-ontology
  4. Mental causation
  5. Mind-body problem
  6. Model-dependent realism
  7. Ontological commitment
  8. Ontological pluralism
  9. Ontology (philosophy)
  10. Physical determinism
  11. Quantifier variance
  12. Subjective-objective dichotomy

Suggestions appreciated. John R. Brews 13:20, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

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The 'new' CZ

Maria, would you be interested in resuming editing here? Some of us are proposing that CZ should become a smaller but stronger community with a more collegial atmosphere. If you would like to edit on any topics (see e.g. recent Literature edits), please do. Thanks! John Stephenson (talk) 09:39, 28 August 2020 (UTC)