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== Advanced theory ==
Today I started as a fresh Citizendium author, but with a fair amount of Wikipedia experience.
I see that the section '''Advanced theory''' in this article is equal to what the corresponding section in the Wikipedia article was  before I changed it. I don't want to change it again here without consultation. You can see [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_bond#Advanced_theory_of_the_hydrogen_bond here]
how I changed it in Wikipedia.
My objections were: (i) I don't agree that hydrogen bond is mysterious. (ii) I don't know what a metric dependent scalar field is between bonds and hence I cannot understand how it can explain bonding. (iii) It escapes me why it is stated that hydrogen is a bound state phenomenon. For low enough temperatures  all molecular complexes are bound, even He<sub>2</sub>.
Are there any objections to me transferring [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_bond#Advanced_theory_of_the_hydrogen_bond this] to the present article? Or, could someone elaborate/clarify the advanced theory section, so that I can at least understand it and preferably agree with it? [[User:Paul Wormer|Paul Wormer]] 04:00, 17 August 2007 (CDT)

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Article Checklist for "Hydrogen bond"
Workgroup category or categories Chemistry Workgroup, Physics Workgroup [Categories OK]
Article status External article: from another source, with little change
Underlinked article? Yes
Basic cleanup done? Yes
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Advanced theory

Today I started as a fresh Citizendium author, but with a fair amount of Wikipedia experience.

I see that the section Advanced theory in this article is equal to what the corresponding section in the Wikipedia article was before I changed it. I don't want to change it again here without consultation. You can see here how I changed it in Wikipedia.

My objections were: (i) I don't agree that hydrogen bond is mysterious. (ii) I don't know what a metric dependent scalar field is between bonds and hence I cannot understand how it can explain bonding. (iii) It escapes me why it is stated that hydrogen is a bound state phenomenon. For low enough temperatures all molecular complexes are bound, even He2.

Are there any objections to me transferring this to the present article? Or, could someone elaborate/clarify the advanced theory section, so that I can at least understand it and preferably agree with it? Paul Wormer 04:00, 17 August 2007 (CDT)