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Someone could help out by making the "handy links for constables" into a nice table... --Larry Sanger 09:56, 15 February 2007 (CST)

Please tell something is being done about you know what. -Tom Kelly (Talk) 12:42, 15 February 2007 (CST)

Something is! --Larry Sanger 19:20, 15 February 2007 (CST)

Wording

"Abuse is dealt with much more strictly and harshly". We should not deal with things "harshly" but "forthrightly". The prior connotes tone of action, the latter manner of action. Stephen Ewen 23:04, 26 February 2007 (CST)

Revising Constabulary Documents

Just a thought- should we look into creating /Draft versions of constabulary documents? It seems like we need these to be living documents with constant input and improvement, but also don't want stated CZ policy to be changed willy-nilly. Right now it seems they're simply 'protected'. I'm wondering if we could extend the approval process to policy, as well as articles (a draft page, CZ Policy tag/category, a reapproval process, etc). Thoughts? --Mike Johnson 18:50, 28 February 2007 (CST)

I have been tinkering with this: User:Stephen Ewen/Tips for new constables, but wonder if a lot of it could stand incorporation into this. Stephen Ewen 03:43, 10 March 2007 (CST)

Incorporation is the key word here. Let us not have zillions of overlapping "tips" pages the way WP has. A few main sources of information: one official (CZ:Policy Outline), with official "detail" pages; and one or (at most) two "explanation" pages. Use templates where necessary; for example, see how CZ:The Author Role and what templates it includes. Another whole page, CZ:How to start a new article, wholly repeats info from the former page, but both pages make use of the same templates. --Larry Sanger 10:40, 26 March 2007 (CDT)

What user information is needed to fulfill a bio requirement for authoring on wiki?

We have a rule that authoring on the wiki is not allowed unless a new user fills out the user page first. Early in the pilot, there was some criticism that the bios supplied gave too little information. This section is for a discussion of what constitutes minimum requirements, and offers guidelines for meeting those requirements.

What information is needed for the user page?

Please see the relevant sections of CZ:Policy Outline. Let's aim to update the information we have, not to write new and possibly conflicting pages. Furthermore, pages about what requirements are needed for editors should be placed on another page: feel free to create one if needed, Nancy, but acquaint yourself with what we've got first. --Larry Sanger 10:38, 26 March 2007 (CDT)

Real name

This is part of the fundamental principles of the Citizendium, and must be supplied- unless a pseudonym has been granted through the Constabulary. If a pseudonym has been granted, the user name must be exactly that pseudonym.

Constables Mail Box

Referring to

The constables mailbox and list

"Constables require access to the constables@citizendium.org mailbox to perform their duties. To access it, request instructions from another constable.

"We would like to keep it's "Inbox" emptied — have a short turnaround time for all messages, as far as possible. Most of the sub-folders should be self-explanatory. Do look in and read the contents of "For our reference"."

A. I have loaded Skype and it seems to be working (I will not be using 'chat' function since most of you are in bed when I am up);

B. Have gone through the directions and tried using it for text messaqges but have had no success in sending or receiving messages.

• I have Robert Tito's address but it neither sends to nor receives from Rob;
• Have tried to get in contact with constables@citizendium.org but a search came up negative on Skype

In other words, if the Skype is the means by which I access an Inbox or folders for the Constables, then I have not been able to get the Skype software to do the job. Any suggestions? --Thomas Simmons 23:37, 5 May 2007 (CDT) +17 hours

My email stated we could use Skype "for troubleshooting". I will clear things up by email. Stephen Ewen 02:26, 6 May 2007 (CDT)

Check

• An author is acting abusively in the discussion page.
• An author refuses to engage in any discussion about a disputed edit.
• An author is very obviously ignoring project rules.

Can't see why this is all author-specific. An abusive, stonewalling, or self-ruled editor is certainly more problematic than any author would be.  —Stephen Ewen (Talk) 11:02, 6 September 2007 (CDT)

Fixed. --Larry Sanger 11:13, 6 September 2007 (CDT)

how do i find a sysop?

There is a link missing on the new skin. Is there a list of sysops? Tom Kelly 23:33, 28 March 2008 (CDT)

Contables' notice-board

I think we need a constables' notice-board, sort of like WP:AN. I know about the mailing list, but a notice-board has nice (different) characteristics too - e.g. if I put up a request for a history merge (say), once one person has dealt with it, and replied on the board (saying 'I'll handle this'), the others don't have to be bothered with it. Also it's easy to include links to on-wiki content (although I know they can be put in email too, as URL's). J. Noel Chiappa 11:48, 12 April 2008 (CDT)

Constables only reactive?

Is it expected that constables only react to complaints or is it expected that constables monitor articles looking for problems? If the target of a "rude" remark does not complain and does not even consider a remark "rude" should the constable still delete the remark if the constable personally thinks the remark is "rude"? Richard Williams 05:17, 26 July 2008 (CDT)

To be a little out-of-the-box, I remember when the police of Falls Church, VA, would occasionally pull over a scared driver, and hand them gift certificates or other little goodies when they were observed being exceptionally courteous, preventing an accident caused by another, etc. Unfortunately, too many drivers were upset to get the desired results.

Still, it was well meant. I wonder if a Constable, perhaps on a central notice board, might occasionally call attention to good examples of collaboration among authors, of constructive guidance from editors, of exceptionally bad puns, and other contributions to the community that otherwise might be ignored.

Howard C. Berkowitz 17:02, 28 July 2008 (CDT)

The difficulty is not spotting a problem, it is that some of you can write some long narratives in your discussions and wading through them is time consuming at times. A heads up by the "target" will certainly get a notice, but keep in mind that sometimes this means we have to go back and read a lot of "pre-rudeness" discussion to determine where things went haywire, so the sooner the better is probably another good idea. D. Matt Innis 19:24, 29 July 2008 (CDT)

Your above response has partially addressed my concern. My original concern was whether it was a constable's job to go around looking for problems or whether they are only to act in response to complaints. This difference is important because it seems that the only reasons an author is supposed to call a constable is when he believes another author has "crossed the line" and broken the rules. Usually long before actually rudeness occurs one or both of the parties all ready know that productive conversation has ended. Citizendium has no mediators or facilitators that can be called for help. It would be helpful when productive conversion has ended for one of the parties to ask for the help of a neutral third party and a constable is as good as anyone for this function. Richard Williams 01:11, 30 July 2008 (CDT)