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Michael Hardy nominated the version dated 13:25, 5 August 2007 (CDT) of this article for approval. One other editor supported the approval (Jitse Niesen). The Mathematics Workgroup oversaw this approval and the article was approved on, or around, 20070807.
Jitse Niesen nominated the version dated 09:59, 9 May 2007 (CDT) of this article for approval. One other editor supported the approval (Michael Hardy). The Mathematics Workgroup oversaw this approval and the article was approved on, or around, May 10, 2007.

Greg Martin nominated this article for approval. The Mathematics Workgroup oversaw this approval

Creating Prime number/Draft David Tribe 20:04, 6 May 2007 (CDT) Approved and locked nominated version Approved V 1. About to move talk page of approved to Talk/Draft David Tribe 20:16, 6 May 2007 (CDT)

Version 1.1 approval events

Approval date for v 1.1 arrives without objection. I see one editor nominating who has only made a small grammar change with a second editor approving as well. I see no dissentions. This article can be re-approved using the Individual Editor approval rules. There are two edits after the approval date shown that appear to be important content issues. Approval Editor okays approval of these two edits. Approval commencing. --Matt Innis (Talk) 18:53, 10 May 2007 (CDT)

Version 1.2 approval events

Michael Hardy nominated r100142531 for approval on 31 July with an approval date of 3 Aug. I changed the date to 5 Aug because I think that the comments of Arturo Magidin should be discussed and possibly acted on, and I moved the tag to this talk page. -- Jitse Niesen 08:05, 3 August 2007 (CDT)

Procedural discussion for v1.1 approval

STOP!! Michael, you cannot approve an article that you have authored BY YOURSELF. The changes between the approved version that is up and the one you are nominated are largely your own changes as author. In that case, You need THREE EDITORS in MATH to do that. So- all 3 have to put up an approval for TODAY. sorry- but as you are the only editor who has worked on the changes since approval as author, you certainly cannot nominate the changed article for new approval. If there are copyedits, then either one of the two nominating editors can contact me. You were not a nominating editor.Please contact the other editors and work together.[It is true that ANOTHER math editor-solo- who has NOT authored in this revision could nominate the revision for approval. Basically, an editor cannot push through approval for something that his or her own work. Greg Martin could nominate for the first approval because he edited a developed article written by others, and Jitse could second because it was a second.If another editor nominates this revision for approval- you could second . )Nancy Sculerati 20:53, 8 May 2007 (CDT)

Mike, not that she needs my support here, but Nancy is correct. If you have contributed significantly to an article, you must first have agreement from two other math editors before it can be nominated for approval by any of you. Please review Approval Process. --Larry Sanger 21:07, 8 May 2007 (CDT)

It's rather vague what "contributed significantly" means. For instance, compare with Nancy's comment dated 22:59, 29 April 2007 on this page. Greg Martin's changes were bigger than Michael's. As I see it, Michael's changes were more than copyediting, but this is a matter of definition, and it is possible to see them as mere copyediting.
A bigger problem in my mind is that the date-of-approve was set to be the date that the ToApprove template was actually added. CZ:Approval Process says that there should at least be 24 hours in between, and that makes sense to me. People should have time to review the article. We're all learning the process as we go along so things will go wrong sometimes.
Anyway, as it happens, I support the changes that Michael made so I put the ToApprove template back up. I don't think I'm considered to be an author in this case: I wrote some parts, but they were approved in V1.0, and my only change since then was definitely a copyedit. I think a short period (one day) is justified because the changes are not big and quite important; the approved version is definitely misleading. -- Jitse Niesen 21:25, 8 May 2007 (CDT)

Actually, I don't think the mention of Euler's result that the sum of the reciprocals of the primes diverges can be considered a "copy edit". But the \scriptstyle changes certainly could be.

I do think it is important to alter the very misleading statement about "unique factorization" in the currently approved version. Michael Hardy 22:09, 8 May 2007 (CDT)

Michael, if you are happy with the version that Jitse has nominated above- add your name to the template. That's the way to show your approval as editor. If you are not happy with it - if that version is not satisfactory- remove the template. That's how you can show that you -as a math editor- feel so strongly that the version being nominated is inadequate for approval. We are all pretty awkward at this (me especially) but we do manage to make the approvals process work. This way- as long as that template is there -on May 10- a constable will approve that version. Nancy Sculerati 22:35, 8 May 2007 (CDT)