Talk:Internet/Archive 2

Definitely not underlinked

Just took a look at "What links here"... ok this definitely isn't underlinked --Eric M Gearhart 09:45, 10 April 2007 (CDT)

Eric, I just added a bit of stuff to the intro, but feel free to mangle it anyhow you see fit. I was just brainstorming.Pat Palmer 22:32, 12 May 2007 (CDT)

Yes the article needs much attention of course... I'd like to start with talking about IMPs and the early DARPAnet and end the history section around the 1990s (when the WWW started getting big). Eric M Gearhart

I think this goes on World_Wide_Web, not here

Someone added this:

The "disruptive technology" and popularity of the Internet has precipitated a paradigm shift in global mass communication much the same as earlier technologies such as the Telephone and American Bell system did, as people around the world can communicate seamlessly over vast distances via many different means. Because of technologies like the Internet, it is said that everyone lives as neighbors in the "global village."

The "internet" is just the network; it grew rather slowly over 20 years. Yes, it was important, but I would not characterize it's advent as "disruptive". The World_Wide_Web, however--HTML, web pages, HTTP and all that--came along in the early 1990's and it certainly was a disruptive technology.

It is a common occurence that people make the shortcut of saying "internet" or "the internet" when they really mean WWW, which is difficult to pronounce. but here, we should be careful to use the precisely correct words. Pat Palmer 13:51, 15 May 2007 (CDT)

Perhaps pedantic, but relevant here as well, is that lower-case "internet" is essentially the Pouzin-Cerf paradigm of generic interconnection of networks, while the upper-case "Internet" is the system of assigned autonomous systems and IP address blocks assigned under IANA authority. Examples of lower-case internets include the secure military networks such as SIPRNET and JWICS, which use exactly the same Internet Protocol and routers as the public Internet, but also have additional security features.

I feel compelled to point out that NIPRNET and SIPRNET - Nonsecure Internet Protocol Routed Network / Secure Internet Protocol Routed Network - simply take their name from the IP in TCP/IP. The entire time in the military we never referred to SIPR as an "internet." I can't be more verbose about more details than that, other than we soldiers had it firmly planted in our minds that SIPRNET was not the Internet in any way, other than it happened to use the same technology as you pointed out Eric M Gearhart 18:33, 13 July 2008 (CDT)

Even more than the Web, a set of disruptive technologies, much as I hate the term, is "convergence" of data, video, voice, telemetry, imagery, etc., over a common IP infrastructure. That infrastructure can have separate and secure Virtual Private Networks.

Within the Internet operations and standards communities, it sometimes feels as if the antithesis of disruption is desirable. "Just-in-time" inventions have been important, such as Classless Inter-Domain Routing, in the early nineties, where we were about to run out of certain parts of address space, and also that the commercial routers of the time were not growing as fast as the address space. When a private organization contracted to provide a significant part of the DNS infrastructure suddenly disrupted the behavior of DNS in an attempt to improve their profits, the response, to put it mildly, was explosive; I was there at some of the more explosive confrontations.

Many of the connection technologies that physically reach the Internet are disruptive, such as bypassing monopoly telephone wiring with leased optics or wire, satellites, and wireless transmission. Howard C. Berkowitz 16:43, 13 July 2008 (CDT)

I agree completely, and viva la revolucion! Telco companies and those companies that feed off them have two choices: evolve or die. It's market Darwinisim at its best :-) -Eric M Gearhart 19:12, 13 July 2008 (CDT)

Certain telco cable splicers do, however, appear to be the Missing Link. For that matter, I once taught a seminar at British Telecom's training center in Stone, Staffordshire. Outside my classroom window was the lineman training center, where I could watch 48 trainees going up and down telephone poles all day. There was something very Freudian about that. Howard C. Berkowitz 21:11, 13 July 2008 (CDT)