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== Wording of introductory section == | |||
The following wording of mine was added a few days back to the article ''American conservatism'': | |||
:"The [[history]] of conservatism in [[United States|America]] must take into account the fact that the term ''conservative'' (and its counterpart term ''liberal'') did not enter the political lexicon in full force prior to a period beginning in the mid 20th century (both the terms ''conservative'' and ''liberal'' were, of course, in use prior to about 1950, but they were not generally used by Americans as the ''primary'' identifiers of an individual's political leanings). In consequence, the antecedents of modern American conservatism must be sought in conjunction with a process examining the political and social context of the times." | |||
This wording was removed and replaced with the following: | |||
:"The term "conservative" did not enter American political discourse until well into the 19th century, but the principles were present long before." | |||
Of course I am aware of the fact that the term existed in American politics prior to the mid-20th century and indicated as much in the original wording. What I said was that it did not enter the political lexicon "in full force" until then. This agrees with the position as explicated in ''The Oxford Guide to United States History'' which states: | |||
:"The term 'conservatism' did not gain parlance until the middle of the twentieth century. . . . When Peter Viereck published ''Conservatism Revisited'' in 1949 and Russell Kirk ''The Conservative Mind'' in 1953, they invoked an understanding of that term that had clear European antecedents . . . " | |||
I would like my wording restored (but to the head of this article). Also, in keeping with this insight, I believe that it would be more appropriate to title this article ''Roots of American conservatism'' or ''Antecedents of American conservatism''. | |||
[[User:James F. Perry|James F. Perry]] 22:44, 20 July 2009 (UTC) |
Revision as of 16:44, 20 July 2009
Wording of introductory section
The following wording of mine was added a few days back to the article American conservatism:
- "The history of conservatism in America must take into account the fact that the term conservative (and its counterpart term liberal) did not enter the political lexicon in full force prior to a period beginning in the mid 20th century (both the terms conservative and liberal were, of course, in use prior to about 1950, but they were not generally used by Americans as the primary identifiers of an individual's political leanings). In consequence, the antecedents of modern American conservatism must be sought in conjunction with a process examining the political and social context of the times."
This wording was removed and replaced with the following:
- "The term "conservative" did not enter American political discourse until well into the 19th century, but the principles were present long before."
Of course I am aware of the fact that the term existed in American politics prior to the mid-20th century and indicated as much in the original wording. What I said was that it did not enter the political lexicon "in full force" until then. This agrees with the position as explicated in The Oxford Guide to United States History which states:
- "The term 'conservatism' did not gain parlance until the middle of the twentieth century. . . . When Peter Viereck published Conservatism Revisited in 1949 and Russell Kirk The Conservative Mind in 1953, they invoked an understanding of that term that had clear European antecedents . . . "
I would like my wording restored (but to the head of this article). Also, in keeping with this insight, I believe that it would be more appropriate to title this article Roots of American conservatism or Antecedents of American conservatism.
James F. Perry 22:44, 20 July 2009 (UTC)