User talk:David E. Volk: Difference between revisions

From Citizendium
Jump to navigation Jump to search
imported>J. Noel Chiappa
(→‎Links to categories: Point out syntax)
m (Text replacement - "Hydrogen sulfide" to "Hydrogen sulphide")
 
(315 intermediate revisions by 42 users not shown)
Line 1: Line 1:
<div style="text-align: center;"><span style="border: 0.5em solid rgb(200,200,200); padding: 0.5em;">This author is no longer active on the ''Citizendium''</span></div><br />
[User bio is in User:Your Name]
[User bio is in User:Your Name]


=== Welcome ===
== Resigning Biology Editorship ==
 
I signed up for CZ and requested to be a Chemistry Editor, based on my PhD in Chemistry. After looking over my publications, Larry Sanger approved me to be a Biology Editor as well. Given the mood of the current Editorial Council, a council on which I once sat, and their new standards, I feel it only appropriate to resign this editorship. I do so not to make a public statement of any kind, but because I am unsure that my education, research interests and publications would necessarily qualify me under the current standards. [[User:David E. Volk|David E. Volk]] 19:15, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
{{awelcome}}
 
You can find some more information about our collaboration groups if you follow this link [[CZ:Workgroups]].You can always ask me on my talk page or others about how to proceed or any other question you might have.
 
''Kind Regards'',
[[User:Robert Tito|Robert Tito]]&nbsp;|&nbsp;<span style="background:black">&nbsp;<font color="red"><b>[[User talk:Robert Tito|Talk]]</b></font>&nbsp;</span> 15:12, 26 March 2007 (CDT)
 
{{ewelcome}} --[[User:Larry Sanger|Larry Sanger]] 20:58, 3 April 2007 (CDT)
 
 
==bots==
 
loved your "thought experiment" on the forums. [[User:Nancy Sculerati|Nancy Sculerati]] 06:03, 22 April 2007 (CDT)
 
==Image(s)==
{{badimage}}[[User:Stephen Ewen|Stephen Ewen]] 20:43, 22 April 2007 (CDT)
 
Hi David. Just copy this text
 
<pre>
;Description
Image of a '''Heat Map''', used as a methematical tool in [[bioinformatics]] to
visually display which variables, such as genes, proteins or metabolites, are
up- or down-regulated within each group.
 
;Licensing
By [[User:David E. Volk|David E. Volk]], released into the public domain.
 
Uploaded by ~~~~
</pre>
 
and paste it in '''[http://en.citizendium.org/wiki?title=Image:HeatMapDEV.jpg&action=edit HERE]''' and click Save page.
 
[[User:Stephen Ewen|Stephen Ewen]] 00:25, 25 April 2007 (CDT)
 
== OK ==
 
OK David, I will look at your ideal gas law. I must add that I'm very glad that there is another scientist active in CZ. I was afraid I was the only one (outside biology, that is).
 
I see that you worked at Duke. I spent a year there. Long time ago in the Chemistry department (with Donald Chesnut). I have very good memories of that year, I really liked living and working in the US. --[[User:Paul Wormer|Paul Wormer]] 03:15, 4 October 2007 (CDT)
 
==ToApprove==
 
Hi David, i made [http://en.citizendium.org/wiki?title=Template%3AVan_der_Waals_equation%2FMetadata&diff=100181224&oldid=100181221 the following edit] on your behalf to kick off the ToApprove process on the [[Van_der_Waals_equation]] article. I hope that is OK [[User:Chris Day|Chris Day]] [[User talk:Chris Day|(talk)]] 15:02, 4 October 2007 (CDT)
 
David, I was getting ready to do the approval on Van der Waals equation when I noticed ther ehave been several more edits since your approval date.  As it is, I can only approve the date that is in the green box, so I will wait till later tonight to approve.  If you want to include these edits, just change the date and version in the box.  If not, you don't have to do anything and I will approve the version that you have marked.  Thanks.. [[User:D. Matt Innis|Matt Innis]] [[User talk:D. Matt Innis|(Talk)]] 18:30, 8 October 2007 (CDT)
 
Congratulations on your first Approval!  I did change the date for you and approved the extra edits as you stated on my talk page.  When you want to find the latest version, follow these steps: 1)click on the history tab, 2)click on 'compare selected version...' button, 3)click on the 'Revision as of [date]' above the previous diff, 4)click on 'newer revision' under the article title, 5)copy the address from the address bar..  and you got it!  It is a long way around.  If you ever find a better way, do let me know!  [[User:D. Matt Innis|Matt Innis]] [[User talk:D. Matt Innis|(Talk)]] 18:57, 9 October 2007 (CDT)
 
==NMR article?==
Hi David, I read on your bio that NMR seems to be a topic which you are familiar with. So, I was wondering if perhaps you may have plans on writing an article on [[Nuclear magnetic resonance]] in the future. Anyway, I guess the reason I'm asking is that an article I started on [[open loop control]] links to that :-) Just a thought. Thanks. [[User:Hendra I. Nurdin|Hendra I. Nurdin]] 16:28, 6 October 2007 (CDT)
:Hi David, I saw your message on my talkpage and totally understand what you're saying. There are also plenty of articles I would like to write, but unfortunately I am unable to find the time to do the research and retrieve the necessary books and papers. So far, I've mostly written about things which I know quite well or have often used in my work and thus can be called off the top of my head or from notes I've made. CZ has yet to reach critical mass :-) [[User:Hendra I. Nurdin|Hendra I. Nurdin]] 16:06, 8 October 2007 (CDT)
 
== Virus template ==
 
I think there already is a model for this that has been made; for proteins I think.  We should be able to copy that and just change the verbage.  --[[User:Robert W King|Robert W King]] 16:44, 16 October 2007 (CDT)
:Wait, do you want an infobox? --[[User:Robert W King|Robert W King]] 16:45, 16 October 2007 (CDT)
::Ok, I'm caught up.  You want an infobox.  I can make this easily *but* I '''must know what criteria you want to be displayed'''.  I had no input with the chemistry infobox I made and thus it is severely lacking in detail.  --[[User:Robert W King|Robert W King]] 16:46, 16 October 2007 (CDT)
 
== Oxygen ==
 
Hi David, thank you for correcting my English. I corrected yours too: "efficiently" ;-). Also I added that distillation is widely used in industry, somehow you lost that fact in cleaning up.--[[User:Paul Wormer|Paul Wormer]] 11:12, 18 October 2007 (CDT)
 
== Isotopes ==
 
Can do easily.  How do you want it formatted? --[[User:Robert W King|Robert W King]] 12:51, 18 October 2007 (CDT)
 
== English ==
 
Hi David, are you sure the following is correct?
:''A volume of earth atmosphere consists of 21% of the oxygen molecule O<sub>2</sub>. ''
and has the meaning:  21% (in volume) of the atmosphere is oxygen?--[[User:Paul Wormer|Paul Wormer]] 09:35, 19 October 2007 (CDT)
 
== small addition to NMR ==
 
see if you like this addition - else delete it. [[User:Robert Tito|Robert Tito]]&nbsp;|&nbsp;<span style="background:grey">&nbsp;<font color="yellow"><b>[[User talk:Robert Tito|Talk]]</b></font>&nbsp;</span>
 
==  Negative nuclear spin explained ==
 
Hi David, your explanation is perfect. I was thinking of negative gyromagnetic ratio, but I didn't know that it existed. I hope you come up with a good "oxygen in air" sentence. Yours,--[[User:Paul Wormer|Paul Wormer]] 01:50, 20 October 2007 (CDT)
 
:In the meantime I saw the new "oxygen in air" sentence: is it mass or volume percentage? (Difference is small, of course, oxygen and nitrogen being almost ideal gases with almost equal molecular masses, but still).--[[User:Paul Wormer|Paul Wormer]] 02:34, 20 October 2007 (CDT)
 
== Antiparallel magnetic moment ==
 
Hi David, as wrote you before I am very much used to parallel spin and magnetic moment (positive g-factor). Now I learned from you that it is not always the case. (I could have known it, the very first table in my old Carrington-McLachlan textbook shows it). My question is: is this phenomenon due to the fact that a neutron has a negative spin g-factor? Or should I ask a nuclear physicist?--[[User:Paul Wormer|Paul Wormer]] 11:04, 21 October 2007 (CDT)
 
==Universe==
Hi, David - I've been trying to find someone from the Physics Workgroup active at the moment. I'd just like to make you aware of the [[Universe]] article. A note has been left on the Talk page arguing that this is not a neutral article because it doesn't mention Creationism. Here's hoping it doesn't turn into a battlefield... [[User:John Stephenson|John Stephenson]] 00:46, 26 October 2007 (CDT)
 
==Structure==
Great job on the protein article. i have not read in detail but a quick skimming indicates it is in great shape.  You did that from scratch? [[User:Chris Day|Chris Day]] [[User talk:Chris Day|(talk)]] 16:26, 26 October 2007 (CDT)
 
== ElementColor ==
 
I set no standards for the template; I am assuming some kind of ''de facto'' standard will come out of the process. I would say choose what color you feel is appropriate ;) --[[User:Robert W King|Robert W King]] 12:55, 6 December 2007 (CST)
:See my reply on the Chemistry workgroup page.  --[[User:Robert W King|Robert W King]] 13:25, 6 December 2007 (CST)
::Re:Phosphorus, you put "Developing" as opposed to an actual number; that particular metadata field wants a numerical input (1-5) as opposed to text. --[[User:Robert W King|Robert W King]] 17:00, 6 December 2007 (CST)
:::Template is now Elem_Infobox.  What would you like to see in a Chem Infobox? --[[User:Robert W King|Robert W King]] 17:18, 6 December 2007 (CST)
 
== Deletions/Image deletions ==
 
David, at any time to request a deletion, you can simply add <nowiki>{{speedydelete|Insert some reason here}}</nowiki> to the article/image space. --[[User:Robert W King|Robert W King]] 17:34, 7 December 2007 (CST)
 
== You deserve to be credited... ==
 
Well, I see you were working away on party day, which makes you one of the [[CZ:Monthly Write-a-Thon#Shy Boys|shy boys]].  I’ll have to come and drag you in next month!  [[User:Aleta Curry|Aleta Curry]] 23:44, 9 December 2007 (CST)
 
== Approval ==
 
Hi David, I'm not so much in a hurry to have articles approved. As [[User:Pieter Kuiper]] pointed out to me, approval hides the real authors. However, I'm more than happy to approve some of your articles.--[[User:Paul Wormer|Paul Wormer]] 10:53, 20 December 2007 (CST)
 
== Phosphate? ==
 
David you write that [[Phosphate]] is ready, do you mean [[Phosphorus]]? If so, I'll read it tomorrow (here it is 7 pm and I quit).--[[User:Paul Wormer|Paul Wormer]] 11:52, 20 December 2007 (CST)
 
*David, I read [[Phosphorus]], and as it stands it is OK. I would like to extend it a little, though. I consulted Larry Sanger and he doesn't seem to care much about approval.  What do you think? If you write the addition I can approve without problems. But I'm willing to add a few paragraphs myself (see [[talk:phosphorus]] for what I have in mind), which then has the drawback that it interferes with the approval. (Or maybe nobody cares and I can approve it anyway, even if I were to write some [minor] additions?)--[[User:Paul Wormer|Paul Wormer]] 10:15, 21 December 2007 (CST)
 
==Subpagination thanks==
Thanks for your work subpaginating articles, David! --[[User:Larry Sanger|Larry Sanger]] 18:38, 23 December 2007 (CST)
 
== Alcohol ==
 
Hi David, I was hoping you could take a look at [[alcohol]] and see if the chemical formulas are correct (I have no chemistry knowledge to speak of, so I hope I didn't make an error.). I started the article because I wanted to write about the behavioral effects of ethanol, and I figured there should be an alcohol page first. Thanks. [[User:Richard Pettitt|Richard Pettitt]] 16:15, 24 December 2007 (CST)
 
== Years as pages... ==
 
Yes, we are.  As the articles flesh out, so will the year-based pages.  --[[User:Michael J. Formica|Michael J. Formica]] 19:36, 27 December 2007 (CST)
 
== redirects ==
It's easy.  Say you have an article called "Big Easy" and you want a redirect from "The Big Easy". Just go to the Search box at the top left of the screen. Type in "The Big Easy". You'll get a message saying that it doesn't exist and asking if you want to create it. Click to create a new article. You'll now have a blank edit page. Scroll down to the bottom of the screen to Special Characters. Click on the link that says #REDIRECX [[]]. That should put it up on the edit page. Then type "Big Easy" in between the bracket.  Save. That will make the redirect.
 
== allotrope ==
 
Hi David, we both wrote something about allotrope/allotropy. Maybe it is better that we merge the two articles and put a redirect?--[[User:Paul Wormer|Paul Wormer]] 08:19, 29 December 2007 (CST)
 
==Steroid==
See query at [[Steroid]]. - [[User:Robert Badgett|Robert Badgett]] 23:49, 31 December 2007 (CST)
 
== vector product ==
 
I know that it is the same as cross product: the last sentence of the article was:
:''The term "vector product" is a synonym of [[cross product]].''
 
I thought of a disambig, but decided that an article adds to the article count and gives more info.
In the meantime I added a more explicit reference.--[[User:Paul Wormer|Paul Wormer]] 01:48, 4 January 2008 (CST)
 
:David, I extended [[vector product]] with the text of [[cross product]] (and took the opportunity of a little rewrite plus small extension). I changed [[cross product]] into a redirect, but don't know what to do about the discussion page of the latter. Further I don't feel comfortable with this <nowiki>{{subpages}}</nowiki> business, could you take care of it? And finally, shouldn't we do something about [[allotrope]] and [[allotropy]] as well?--[[User:Paul Wormer|Paul Wormer]] 04:11, 5 January 2008 (CST)
 
== River names ==
David, thanks for your [[User_talk:Igor_Grešovnik#river_names|remark about river names]]. Please give me a note when you have more information regarding naming of river articles. --[[User:Igor Grešovnik|Igor Grešovnik]] 12:39, 4 January 2008 (CST)
 
== [[Lavigueur family]] ==
Hi David. I'd like to know more about why the bibliography was removed. :-) -- [[User:Hugo Voisard|Hugo Voisard]] 13:25, 4 January 2008 (CST)
:It probably wasn't removed; just moved to an appropriate "subpage", the Bibliography subpage located at [[Lavigueur_family/Bibliography]]. --[[User:Robert W King|Robert W King]] 13:30, 4 January 2008 (CST)
::Robert is correct, and I replied on Hugo's talk page regarding this. [[User:David E. Volk|David E. Volk]] 13:34, 4 January 2008 (CST)
:::Thank you for the information. :-) -- [[User:Hugo Voisard|Hugo Voisard]] 23:53, 4 January 2008 (CST)
 
==FYI==
Just to let you know, when you upload images and see <code><nowiki>{{subst:3~ }}</nowiki></code> in the area where it says <code>CZ_username =</code>, just leave it as is.  It automatically signs your username (it was a dirty hack).  So for me, <nowiki>{{subst:3~ }}</nowiki>  produces [[User:Stephen Ewen|Stephen Ewen]] as soon as I save a page. {{smile}}  [[User:Stephen Ewen|Stephen Ewen]] 18:12, 4 January 2008 (CST)
 
:Ah, the above is obsolete because I just figured out how to use ASCII to cause <code><nowiki>~~~</nowiki></code> to automatically enter the edit window. [[User:Stephen Ewen|Stephen Ewen]] 21:49, 4 January 2008 (CST)
 
== viruses template ==
 
Did you ever get help with [[User_talk:Robert_W_King#I_need_a_template_designed|this]]? [[User:Stephen Ewen|Stephen Ewen]] 02:55, 12 January 2008 (CST)
 
== New NMR guy ==
 
Hi David, I'm also glad that we have a new (physical) chemist on board. The content of his NMR article is OK, but the format needs fixing up. How will we proceed, we simply go ahead and fix it (and explain in the talk page why), or will we ask him to adapt it himself? He signed the article and I'm afraid that if we take his signature away he will misunderstand that. --[[User:Paul Wormer|Paul Wormer]] 09:51, 12 January 2008 (CST)
 
== Reply to welcome ==
 
Thank you for the welcome.
 
I have never used a wiki before and I am just learning how to use this system.
 
I am not sure if this is the page to reply, so please forgive if this is the wrong place.
 
I just added an article on NMR spectrosocpy; however, unlike your page and that of most others it does not have a STATUS tab (approved/ draft etc.) attached to it.  Your comments are welcome.
 
Thanking you.
 
Sincerely yours.
Talluri Sekhar
 
== test ==
<span style="border: 3px solid #90ade3;">[[User:David E. Volk|<span style="background: #bad1fb; color: #000000;">&nbsp;David E.&nbsp;Volk&nbsp; </span>]]
[[User_talk:David &nbsp;E. &nbsp;Volk|<span style="background: #90ade3; color: #FFFFFF;">&nbsp;talk</span>]]</span>
 
== Spelling variants ==
There is a problem with all of these pages you created involving the name "sulphur/sulfur". Can you put the variant spellings in the lead of each article, and also redirects to each article? Otherwise, searches will not give the pages for what is internationally an equally common spelling to the American one, and it is also not good for CZ to be American-focused. Many thanks. [[User:Martin Baldwin-Edwards|Martin Baldwin-Edwards]] 13:44, 16 January 2008 (CST)
 
== NMR spectroscopy : an attempt to get it approved ==
 
--[[User:Sekhar Talluri|Sekhar Talluri]] 16:39, 16 January 2008 (CST)
 
I edited the metadata page for my article on NMR spectroscopy in an attempt to send it for approval by you and P. Wormer as editors.  However, it appears that somehow I have approved it myself:-)
Please feel free to undo/do/fix whatever is necessary , but do consider it for approval.
Sincerely
 
== Catalogs ==
 
David:  Kindly do not remove the Psychology Catalogs category from the bottom of psych pages.  It is there to provide a structural guideline.
 
Secondly, (re: Tao Te Ching) it is fprmatting convention to bold only the topic of an article, not variations on spelling, etc.
 
 
Thanks...  --[[User:Michael J. Formica|Michael J. Formica]] 18:36, 21 January 2008 (CST)
 
==Drug pages==
See lovastatin and simvastatin for what I did:
* Made brand list into three columns
* Automated link to FDA information
 
Look at second green box on http://medinformatics.uthscsa.edu/wiki/ for details.
 
See also [[template:DailyMed]]
- [[User:Robert Badgett|Robert Badgett]] 13:41, 24 January 2008 (CST)
 
== Thanks for adding image into [[Hydrodesulfurization]] ==
 
David, thanks for adding your chemical reaction image into the hydrodenitrogenation section of the [[Hydrodesulfurization]] article. It really dresses up that section. Regards, [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 12:22, 4 February 2008 (CST)
 
== Request ==
 
Hi David, I was wondering if you could add an image to the [[methylphenidate]] article. Thanks! --[[User:Richard Pettitt|Richard Pettitt]] 17:57, 4 February 2008 (CST)
:Thanks very much! --[[User:Richard Pettitt|Richard Pettitt]] 10:02, 6 February 2008 (CST)
 
== template mess ==
 
Hi David, I'm intending to write some about Ampere. As a start I moved the existing article '''Ampere''' to [[Ampere (unit)]]. But this somehow screwed up the metadata template. Could you have a look please? Thank you. --[[User:Paul Wormer|Paul Wormer]] 09:07, 11 February 2008 (CST)
 
:Thanks!--[[User:Paul Wormer|Paul Wormer]] 10:36, 11 February 2008 (CST)
 
== Thanks ==
Thanks David. I'm still learning how to upload images properly. There's more processes to do than a wikipedia upload. Not sure if I've done it correctly so I'm waiting back for Stephens advice. [[User:Meg Ireland|Meg Ireland]] 17:41, 16 February 2008 (CST)
==Pleasure==
Learning to tell LA from L.A.! - [[User:Ro Thorpe|Ro Thorpe]] 09:02, 19 February 2008 (CST)
 
== Score 2? ==
 
Hi David, why did you change the score of country? --> [http://en.citizendium.org/wiki?title=CZ:Article_of_the_Week&diff=0&oldid=100273896] -- [[User:Alexander Wiebel|Alexander Wiebel]] 12:50, 21 February 2008 (CST)
: :-) -- [[User:Alexander Wiebel|Alexander Wiebel]] 12:54, 21 February 2008 (CST)
 
== Chem info box ==
 
"A box used to contain MW, formula, KEGG, CAS, etc is still under development."
 
What kind of information do you think should be contained in the box, and how should it be formatted?  One thing that bothers me about WPs infoboxes (and I don't know if you feel the same, but please respond) is that they go entirely overboard on numerical inclusions.  How can the information in an infobox be used to relay a fundamental principal about a particular chemical, given x amount of properities? --[[User:Robert W King|Robert W King]] 12:02, 22 February 2008 (CST)
 
:: Robert, here are my thoughts on Chem_infobox:
First, I think the structures should not be in the box, because large chemicals need big drawing to be readable.
Also, the IUPAC names of some compounds are 2-3 sentences long, so I would keep those out also.  In my opinion, I would like to keep the box simple and contain the following:
 
* Name of Chemical
* Molecular Formula
* Molecular Mass
* Hazards
* CAS #
* (optional) Link to an MSDS form, plenty of sites to choose from (this might instead be on the external links page)
 
BTW, I have programmed in several languages and would like learn how to make templates someday.  Could you email me a copy of some code to that?  [[User:David E. Volk|David E. Volk]] 13:37, 22 February 2008 (CST)
:What should the representation of the molecular formula be like?  Should it exist in text form, or by some graphic?  Is the mass a single number or derived from a forumla?  What kinds of hazards should be displayed?  What is CAS?  Besides the link from MSDS, is there any information from the MSDS that should be included? 
 
:Also, what is the overall theme that should be described: how to utilize a chemical compound, or how to safeguard against it, or the dangers of it? 
 
:Designing a template is pretty easy as long as you know how to create tables in HTML.  The wiki-code uses certain markup which represents the same as table data, rows, columns, and their syntaxes.  Basically, almost any html can be employed when creating a template (including DIVs and stylesheets to an extent).  However, there are some ways to script your results, including variables and quantification statements such as "if" "exist" and others.  I'll dig up the mediawiki help page for you... it's not complicated. --[[User:Robert W King|Robert W King]] 13:52, 22 February 2008 (CST)
 
Details:
 
* <b>Chemical formulas</b> will look like this C<sub>6</sub>H<sub>12</sub>O<sub>2</sub>
 
* <b>Molecular Mass</b>, a single number derived from the formula, will look like this:  236.23 g/mol
 
* <b>CAS #</b> is the Chemical Abstract Service reference number for a chemical
 
* <b>Hazards</b> can just be a text box saying things like: "Explosive, [[Corrosive]], Liver [[Toxin]], known [[Carcinogen]], [[Radioactive]]".
 
* <b>MSDS</b> = "Material Safety Data Sheet" that must be shipped whenever a chemical is purchased.  It contains a full gruesome detail of all hazards, melting points, molecular mass, and other details for the reader who wants to know everything. There is not a single MSDS for each chemical.  That is, for a given chemical, you can usually find many different versions, like one from Aldrich, one from DuPont, etc.
 
* <b>Theme</b> The theme of chemistry articles, like all CZ, should be about the uses of the chemical first, ie why is it important.  Note that I added the "Common Uses" to the list above, just before hazards.  I had forgotten this on the list.  WP uses the 4-diamonds in a diamond type of drawing for hazards, but only experienced chemists know what this means.  For the general audience I think simple text is the way to go with hazards.  However, hazards should be after common uses IMHO. [[User:David E. Volk|David E. Volk]] 14:07, 22 February 2008 (CST)
 
 
==RSAs==
Yeah, they're New Hampshire state law, I wanted to write a compendium of them in order to memorize them all. However, due to alot of other distractions, I got a little lazy and started copying and pasting rather than helping digest the RSAs.
 
I'd have no problem with deleting what's in there now and starting from scratch with the collaboration of the project you mentioned. [[User:Andrew Sylvia|Andrew Sylvia]] 12:32, 24 February 2008 (CST)
:Thanks, it'll still be daunting considering there are over 600 of them, and most of those 600+ are subdivided into sometimes more than dozens of parts, but it's a better idea.
 
P.S -  I apologize if i'm sounding like a know it all here, but RSA in regards to the New Hampshire RSAs stands for "Revised Statues Annotated". Please feel free to send over chemistry facts though in return :-) [[User:Andrew Sylvia|Andrew Sylvia]] 13:01, 24 February 2008 (CST)
 
== [[Azole]] ==
 
Congratulations on approval!  [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 11:08, 26 February 2008 (CST)
 
== Approval of [[Phosphorus]] ==
 
David, I have scanned the article and made a few cosmetic copy edits. Much of the subject matter is way above my knowledge of chemistry, but I am very impressed with the depth of detail that you and Paul Wormer have provided.
 
The only serious criticism I have is that the article has only one reference. In my opinion, an article of that length and detail should have at least 8-12 references. I think that providing the needed references should be relatively easy for you and Paul.
 
Once the references have been provided, I would be pleased to start the approval process. I think that what I must do in the "required for ToApprove template" section of the MetaData template is:
 
* article url= Provide the article url
* now= Provide the time (CST) and date
* ToA editor= Provide my name
* date= Provide the date that is 6 days after the now=date


Is that correct? If not, please let me know. Regards, - [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 12:17, 26 February 2008 (CST)
== New Chemistry  editor, [[User:Joel M. Williams‎|Joel M. Williams]] ==


== Quin ==
Hi, David:
David, I found (the extract of) a book by Louis Quin on organic phosphorus compounds [http://books.google.com/books?id=3ATQyjZBjy0C&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_summary_r#PPA37,M1]. It also has a chapter on <sup>31</sup>P NMR. In my time (as TA and RA) at Duke, Quin was chairman of the chemistry dept. Do you know him? I see in your CV that you were in the medical school of Duke. --[[User:Paul Wormer|Paul Wormer]] 06:21, 27 February 2008 (CST)


== d-orbitals ==
We have a new Chemistry editor. Perhaps you may wish to post a welcome message on his Talk page. Regards, [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 02:49, 14 February 2011 (UTC)


Good afternoon David, blushing I make a confession: my knowledge of bonding in phosphorus was outdated. Prompted by Milton I checked some literature and found that the idea of bonding by ''d''-orbitals is outdated. I should have known this because I know Kutzelnigg (who discovered this) quite well and have  heard him speak zillions of times. But I was never much interested in second row atoms and didn't pay attention. I added a paragraph, and let the old part still intact, maybe it looks silly now, have a look and give your honest opinion. --[[User:Paul Wormer|Paul Wormer]] 08:52, 27 February 2008 (CST)
David,
:David, I see that you left both explanations of difference in bonding between nitrogen and phosphorus intact. Don't you think that the old-fashioned explanation, based on ''d''-orbitals, should go?--[[User:Paul Wormer|Paul Wormer]] 02:31, 28 February 2008 (CST)
Your opening quote is still true several hundred years later as I can attest!! My observation is that most scientists are the most rigid folks imaginable; spouting the party lines rather than thinking - PhD's being proof that they know the party lines. Has to do with peer-pressure and the desire to maintain one's job. Thus, few are reluctant to challenge the status quo! Frankly, the folks who should be most able to evaluate matters and come up with new approaches are the retired.Unfortunately, most are too tired or just no longer give a crap! [[User:Joel M. Williams|Joel M. Williams]] 20:04, 14 February 2011 (UTC)


== Re your comments on [[Life/Draft]] ==


David, owing to editing conflicts, I did not get to complete my response to your thoughtful comments on [[Life/Draft]]. Will you please look again at http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Talk:Life/Draft#general_comments to see my continued responses.  Thanks. --[[User:Anthony.Sebastian|Anthony.Sebastian]] 15:44, 28 February 2008 (CST)
==Thanks==
Thanks for the nudge on adiponutrin - it had flown below ny radar, but I've added a para.[[User:Gareth Leng|Gareth Leng]] 10:16, 18 February 2011 (UTC)


== e & E ==
== [[Liquefied natural gas]] ==


Hi, David, I intend to make (not just now) a page about the letter E.  That'll mean modifying the name of the existing [[e]] article, which you've been editing.  I suggest [[e (number)]] or [[e (mathematics)]]: what do you say?  Cheers - [[User:Ro Thorpe|Ro Thorpe]] 13:13, 29 February 2008 (CST)
David, I would appreciate any comments/edits/discussion you may offer on the new article [[Liquefied natural gas]] (LNG). [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 05:03, 23 February 2011 (UTC)


Exponential base?!?  Does it really have to be so exact? Anyway, whatever you supernumerate guys feel comfortable with, of course! - [[User:Ro Thorpe|Ro Thorpe]] 13:31, 29 February 2008 (CST)
== About [[Hydrogen sulphide]] ==


OK, that's fine, thanks - [[User:Ro Thorpe|Ro Thorpe]] 16:46, 29 February 2008 (CST)
David, if you have the time, I would appreciate it if you reviewed [[Hydrogen sulphide]]. It could use some more content. [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 22:08, 4 March 2011 (UTC)


== That's Life! ==
== New author you may want to chat with ==


David, see my rply: http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/User_talk:Anthony.Sebastian#That.27s_Life.21 --[[User:Anthony.Sebastian|Anthony.Sebastian]] 14:43, 29 February 2008 (CST)
Hi, David -- we have a new author, Samuel Herec, an undergrad at Northeastern who is a musician and is insterested in biomedical devices as well as audio technology. You seem to be just the guy to welcome him. [[User:Bruce M. Tindall|Bruce M. Tindall]] 23:56, 8 March 2011 (UTC)


== Please be so kind as to revisit ==
== Financial Report as of March 15, 2011 ==


[[Rottweiler]].  You had a look at it sometime back, David, and requested some sort of citations. Can you have a look at the additions I've made?  Thanks! [[User:Aleta Curry|Aleta Curry]] 16:43, 29 February 2008 (CST)
Please read our [[CZ:Donate|Financial Report as of March 15, 2001]] for complete details on our financial history and our current financial situation. If you have any questions, please ask them on [[CZ Talk:Donate]]. - [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 22:25, 18 March 2011 (UTC)


:Thanks for taking the time to review. Much appreciated. [[User:Aleta Curry|Aleta Curry]] 20:04, 29 February 2008 (CST)
== The missing mini-periodical tables from the element articles. ==


== NMR ==
David, as of yesterday morning, all of the element articles had a mini-periodical table in the infoboxes. Shortly, after Dan Nessett upgraded our Mediawiki software yesterday evening, I noticed that all of the mini-periodic tables had disappeared from the infoboxes. I immediately informed him by posting in the "Technical Issues" forum board (see [http://forum.citizendium.org/index.php/topic,3978.0.html Topic 3978.0] and by sending him an email as well.


Hi David, [http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Talk:NMR_active_elements#Approval_process this article] needs your attention. Thanks, [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 19:34, 29 February 2008 (CST).
As he has told you, he has found out why this occurred but has not yet figured out how to resolve it ... but I am confident that he will do so in the near future. [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 22:12, 27 April 2011 (CDT)


==Approval of [[Phosphorus]] article==
== Finished revising 112 of the chemical element articles ==


David, I believe that last week we agreed that I would start the Approval process for the [[Phosphorus]] article after you finished reviewing the article yourself. Please let me know whether you did in fact finish your review and I will then proceed. Thanks, [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 12:54, 3 March 2008 (CST)
Hi,David: I just finished revising all 112 chemical element articles (from [[Hydrogen]] through [[Copernicium]]. They all now use the [[Template:Elem Infobox]] and they are now all editable.


::I have started the Approval process of [[Phosphorus]] as of a few minutes ago. [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 13:39, 3 March 2008 (CST)
During the course of that work, David Yamakuchi contacted me as to what I was doing ... which I explained and told him why I was doing it. We came to an amicable agreement and he revised some of the templates he had created. You can read our exchange of postings on my Talk page.


== Why not a category? ==
David had done a tremendous amount of ingenious work that involved about 5 or 6 subpages for each each element (a total of about 560 to 672 subpages). As I found in going through all of the articles, it is simply not possible to come up with any automatic "one size fits all" method for creating 112 chemical element articles. It required manually editing of each of them. It is a complex system and it took me many hours to get familiar with it.


Any particular reason you're doing [[Catalog of artworks known in English by a foreign title‎]] as an article, and not a category? [[User:J. Noel Chiappa|J. Noel Chiappa]] 19:57, 3 March 2008 (CST)
I agree it would be nice to make it much more simple, but I don't know to do it. In any event, they are now all editable and consistent, although most of them (90% or more) are "bare bones" articles that need much more content.


: Ah, sorry. That's what I get for not checking the history! I will do as you suggest. [[User:J. Noel Chiappa|J. Noel Chiappa]] 23:08, 3 March 2008 (CST)
Milt


==Led Zeppelin==
== Blocked account showing inappropriate categories ==
David, I just want to thank you for voting for Led Zeppelin in the Draft of the Week. I never expected anyone to vote for it but I do appreciate it :) Thanks! [[User:Meg Ireland|Meg Ireland]] 17:02, 4 March 2008 (CST)


==DrugBank template==
This account is no longer a member of the categories CZ Editors | Chemistry Authors | Chemistry Editors | Biochemistry Members | Biology Authors | Physics Authors | Mathematics Authors | Music Authors | Health Sciences Authors but the userpage has been protected preventing Citizens from remedying this situation. [[User:David Finn|David Finn]] 07:43, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
See use of new [[Template:DrugBank|DrugBank template]] in development at [[acetaminophen]]. - [[User:Robert Badgett|Robert Badgett]] 07:48, 5 March 2008 (CST)


==Your proposal to create workgroup style guides==
:I don't think you're right about that. My understanding is that an Editor stays an Editor unless the EC says so, even if they leave or are banned. [[User:Peter Jackson|Peter Jackson]] 11:15, 30 November 2011 (UTC)


Hello. No driver is listed in the proposal record for "Create workgroup style guides" which you started. Every proposal must have a driver, a champion who is filling in the details of the proposal and driving it along. Do consider becoming the driver yourself; don't be worried that this is hard as I will help you at every step if necessary. If you find a driver, please make sure that the proposal record on [[CZ:Proposals/New]] is updated. If no driver can be found within three days, then the proposal becomes inactive. Your newly-appointed Proposals Manager, [[User:Jitse Niesen|Jitse Niesen]] 09:43, 6 March 2008 (CST)
::CZ:Editors ''should be a complete list of active CZ editors'', and David is listed [http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Category:Chemistry_Editors at the chemistry Workgroup] as being an active Editor, which is of no use to anyone using the Chemistry workgroup to find active Editors as well as being a misrepresentation. Why would it be desirable to list someone who has gone through our formal resignation process as an Editor, active or otherwise? [[User:David Finn|David Finn]] 11:34, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
:David, I want to work with you on this proposal. --[[User:Robert W King|Robert W King]] 11:44, 6 March 2008 (CST)


== This is the day that [[Phosphorus]] is supposed to be approved. ==
::I think in this case your understanding is mistaken. You would be referring to [http://ec.citizendium.org/wiki/EC:2011-017 this EC motion] where the outcome was clearly stated that only an official resignation from CZ would be enough to have ones categories removed. It could be argued from the poor wording of the Motion that a separate resignation was needed for the EC, but that is not supported by the statements of the people who voted for it, and would in any event be a ridiculous proposition. We already have enough hoops for people to jump through to become ex-Citizens without requiring that resignation letters be made in duplicate.


David: What else needs to be done, if anything, to finish the approval process? No one other than myself has yet signed the nomination on the Metadata template, although I thought you said that you and Paul Wormer could do so. Regards, [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 10:58, 10 March 2008 (CDT)
::It would appear that EC:2011-017 makes it clear that the categories listed above should be removed immediately. [[User:David Finn|David Finn]] 08:02, 1 December 2011 (UTC)


== Links to categories ==
:::"Only an official request for nullification of one's Editorship, to be eventually carried out by the Constabulary, is valid." seems clear enough. On the other hand, it does seem reasonable that David should not be listed as an ''active'' editor. [[User:Peter Jackson|Peter Jackson]] 11:16, 1 December 2011 (UTC)


You can have a link to Category:Articles to Approve, without adding the page the link is in (e.g. your user page) to the category with this: "<nowiki>[[:Category:Articles to Approve]]</nowiki>", which produces this: [[:Category:Articles to Approve]]. (Note the leading ''':'''.) Hope that's useful... [[User:J. Noel Chiappa|J. Noel Chiappa]] 11:33, 10 March 2008 (CDT)
::::No less unreasonable than having a list of Editors, active or otherwise, that consists partly of non-Citizens who have requested they be removed from the project. As you will know that Motion was initiated because Martin had resigned on the Forum, resigned on his userpage, but was still making flyby Editor "Rulings" when it suited - the Motion was intended to quantify that a formal resignation was required before the resignation was taken seriously. It was never meant to become a list of non-Citizens. I also seriously doubt that the many Citizens who have voluntarily resigned have been informed that they must resign in triplicate. Like I said, I hope your interpretation is incorrect because it would not only be a ridiculous situation but probably illegal under the Charter. [[User:David Finn|David Finn]] 07:42, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 09:41, 6 March 2024

This author is no longer active on the Citizendium


[User bio is in User:Your Name]

Resigning Biology Editorship

I signed up for CZ and requested to be a Chemistry Editor, based on my PhD in Chemistry. After looking over my publications, Larry Sanger approved me to be a Biology Editor as well. Given the mood of the current Editorial Council, a council on which I once sat, and their new standards, I feel it only appropriate to resign this editorship. I do so not to make a public statement of any kind, but because I am unsure that my education, research interests and publications would necessarily qualify me under the current standards. David E. Volk 19:15, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

New Chemistry editor, Joel M. Williams

Hi, David:

We have a new Chemistry editor. Perhaps you may wish to post a welcome message on his Talk page. Regards, Milton Beychok 02:49, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

David, Your opening quote is still true several hundred years later as I can attest!! My observation is that most scientists are the most rigid folks imaginable; spouting the party lines rather than thinking - PhD's being proof that they know the party lines. Has to do with peer-pressure and the desire to maintain one's job. Thus, few are reluctant to challenge the status quo! Frankly, the folks who should be most able to evaluate matters and come up with new approaches are the retired.Unfortunately, most are too tired or just no longer give a crap! Joel M. Williams 20:04, 14 February 2011 (UTC)


Thanks

Thanks for the nudge on adiponutrin - it had flown below ny radar, but I've added a para.Gareth Leng 10:16, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

Liquefied natural gas

David, I would appreciate any comments/edits/discussion you may offer on the new article Liquefied natural gas (LNG). Milton Beychok 05:03, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

About Hydrogen sulphide

David, if you have the time, I would appreciate it if you reviewed Hydrogen sulphide. It could use some more content. Milton Beychok 22:08, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

New author you may want to chat with

Hi, David -- we have a new author, Samuel Herec, an undergrad at Northeastern who is a musician and is insterested in biomedical devices as well as audio technology. You seem to be just the guy to welcome him. Bruce M. Tindall 23:56, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Financial Report as of March 15, 2011

Please read our Financial Report as of March 15, 2001 for complete details on our financial history and our current financial situation. If you have any questions, please ask them on CZ Talk:Donate. - Milton Beychok 22:25, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

The missing mini-periodical tables from the element articles.

David, as of yesterday morning, all of the element articles had a mini-periodical table in the infoboxes. Shortly, after Dan Nessett upgraded our Mediawiki software yesterday evening, I noticed that all of the mini-periodic tables had disappeared from the infoboxes. I immediately informed him by posting in the "Technical Issues" forum board (see Topic 3978.0 and by sending him an email as well.

As he has told you, he has found out why this occurred but has not yet figured out how to resolve it ... but I am confident that he will do so in the near future. Milton Beychok 22:12, 27 April 2011 (CDT)

Finished revising 112 of the chemical element articles

Hi,David: I just finished revising all 112 chemical element articles (from Hydrogen through Copernicium. They all now use the Template:Elem Infobox and they are now all editable.

During the course of that work, David Yamakuchi contacted me as to what I was doing ... which I explained and told him why I was doing it. We came to an amicable agreement and he revised some of the templates he had created. You can read our exchange of postings on my Talk page.

David had done a tremendous amount of ingenious work that involved about 5 or 6 subpages for each each element (a total of about 560 to 672 subpages). As I found in going through all of the articles, it is simply not possible to come up with any automatic "one size fits all" method for creating 112 chemical element articles. It required manually editing of each of them. It is a complex system and it took me many hours to get familiar with it.

I agree it would be nice to make it much more simple, but I don't know to do it. In any event, they are now all editable and consistent, although most of them (90% or more) are "bare bones" articles that need much more content.

Milt

Blocked account showing inappropriate categories

This account is no longer a member of the categories CZ Editors | Chemistry Authors | Chemistry Editors | Biochemistry Members | Biology Authors | Physics Authors | Mathematics Authors | Music Authors | Health Sciences Authors but the userpage has been protected preventing Citizens from remedying this situation. David Finn 07:43, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

I don't think you're right about that. My understanding is that an Editor stays an Editor unless the EC says so, even if they leave or are banned. Peter Jackson 11:15, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
CZ:Editors should be a complete list of active CZ editors, and David is listed at the chemistry Workgroup as being an active Editor, which is of no use to anyone using the Chemistry workgroup to find active Editors as well as being a misrepresentation. Why would it be desirable to list someone who has gone through our formal resignation process as an Editor, active or otherwise? David Finn 11:34, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
I think in this case your understanding is mistaken. You would be referring to this EC motion where the outcome was clearly stated that only an official resignation from CZ would be enough to have ones categories removed. It could be argued from the poor wording of the Motion that a separate resignation was needed for the EC, but that is not supported by the statements of the people who voted for it, and would in any event be a ridiculous proposition. We already have enough hoops for people to jump through to become ex-Citizens without requiring that resignation letters be made in duplicate.
It would appear that EC:2011-017 makes it clear that the categories listed above should be removed immediately. David Finn 08:02, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
"Only an official request for nullification of one's Editorship, to be eventually carried out by the Constabulary, is valid." seems clear enough. On the other hand, it does seem reasonable that David should not be listed as an active editor. Peter Jackson 11:16, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
No less unreasonable than having a list of Editors, active or otherwise, that consists partly of non-Citizens who have requested they be removed from the project. As you will know that Motion was initiated because Martin had resigned on the Forum, resigned on his userpage, but was still making flyby Editor "Rulings" when it suited - the Motion was intended to quantify that a formal resignation was required before the resignation was taken seriously. It was never meant to become a list of non-Citizens. I also seriously doubt that the many Citizens who have voluntarily resigned have been informed that they must resign in triplicate. Like I said, I hope your interpretation is incorrect because it would not only be a ridiculous situation but probably illegal under the Charter. David Finn 07:42, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
Retrieved from "https://citizendium.org/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:David_E._Volk&oldid=926293"