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:Personally I'd prefer having too many people bringing in (possibly) too many unsuitable WP articles that then have to be rearranged than not having any new articles created at all. [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 05:03, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
:Personally I'd prefer having too many people bringing in (possibly) too many unsuitable WP articles that then have to be rearranged than not having any new articles created at all. [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 05:03, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Thanks for letting me know, Hayford; for me this is somewhat of an experiment. I'm trying to boost readership to CZ by porting WP's "hottest" (most read) articles, improving them, and seeing what happens. Readership is a big thing for me. I'm not particularly interested in Lady Gaga but lots of other people out there are, and I'm exploring ways to bring them in to CZ. My tentative hypothesis is: bringing in "hot" articles will boost CZ readership. Any idea if this hypothesis is right?--[[User:Thomas Wright Sulcer|Thomas Wright Sulcer]] 13:05, 26 February 2010 (UTC)


::Tom, your logic is sound but as you say the article needs to be improved upon. If the article is a copy of what's on WP, why would anyone want to read it here when the WP article would more than likely be ranked higher on say, Google? The key here is for the article to be *better* than the WP original. Offer something to the reader/researcher that the WP article doesn't. Keep it up to date and relevant. Huge task I know. I'm not against articles being imported from WP. It's a start. But if the object here is to attract a bigger audience share than WP, the article must offer something more that keeps the reader coming back and discovering other articles in the process. I don't know of any LG fans on CZ, that could help out on that. [[User:Meg Ireland|Meg Ireland]] 05:24, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
::Tom, your logic is sound but as you say the article needs to be improved upon. If the article is a copy of what's on WP, why would anyone want to read it here when the WP article would more than likely be ranked higher on say, Google? The key here is for the article to be *better* than the WP original. Offer something to the reader/researcher that the WP article doesn't. Keep it up to date and relevant. Huge task I know. I'm not against articles being imported from WP. It's a start. But if the object here is to attract a bigger audience share than WP, the article must offer something more that keeps the reader coming back and discovering other articles in the process. I don't know of any LG fans on CZ, that could help out on that. [[User:Meg Ireland|Meg Ireland]] 05:24, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Meg, thanks for your input. And I plan to improve this article with new and better information. I'm a former Wikipedian, freshly on CZ, but for me a substantial drawback is that there is little indication to me that CZ is attracting any readers. When I do a Google search for "Lady Gaga", the first thing that comes up is LG's website, then the THIRD entry down is Wikipedia -- but CZ is nowhere to be found, even after pages and pages of scrolling. And, for me, a big motivator is readership -- why should I work super hard and create great stuff if *nobody is reading it*? At any rate, my tentative plan is to do both -- port hot articles AND improve them if I can.--[[User:Thomas Wright Sulcer|Thomas Wright Sulcer]] 13:05, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

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Ported article from WP

This is the 12th most popular article on WP in Dec 2009 with over 90,000 views per day. So the subject of Lady Gaga is highly interesting. I added some more information with references but I did not check all the references or text. What I'm wondering is: if we port the most popular WP articles and improve them, maybe this will bring more readers to CZ, or at least get CZ registering on Google searches? Such is my theory. But if my logic is incorrect, I don't mind if other CZ editors call for deletion here, since the topic is somewhat racy, albeit highly popular among all kinds of young people today. I'm not attached to this article.--Thomas Wright Sulcer 04:58, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Personally I'd prefer having too many people bringing in (possibly) too many unsuitable WP articles that then have to be rearranged than not having any new articles created at all. Hayford Peirce 05:03, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for letting me know, Hayford; for me this is somewhat of an experiment. I'm trying to boost readership to CZ by porting WP's "hottest" (most read) articles, improving them, and seeing what happens. Readership is a big thing for me. I'm not particularly interested in Lady Gaga but lots of other people out there are, and I'm exploring ways to bring them in to CZ. My tentative hypothesis is: bringing in "hot" articles will boost CZ readership. Any idea if this hypothesis is right?--Thomas Wright Sulcer 13:05, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
Tom, your logic is sound but as you say the article needs to be improved upon. If the article is a copy of what's on WP, why would anyone want to read it here when the WP article would more than likely be ranked higher on say, Google? The key here is for the article to be *better* than the WP original. Offer something to the reader/researcher that the WP article doesn't. Keep it up to date and relevant. Huge task I know. I'm not against articles being imported from WP. It's a start. But if the object here is to attract a bigger audience share than WP, the article must offer something more that keeps the reader coming back and discovering other articles in the process. I don't know of any LG fans on CZ, that could help out on that. Meg Ireland 05:24, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
Meg, thanks for your input. And I plan to improve this article with new and better information. I'm a former Wikipedian, freshly on CZ, but for me a substantial drawback is that there is little indication to me that CZ is attracting any readers. When I do a Google search for "Lady Gaga", the first thing that comes up is LG's website, then the THIRD entry down is Wikipedia -- but CZ is nowhere to be found, even after pages and pages of scrolling. And, for me, a big motivator is readership -- why should I work super hard and create great stuff if *nobody is reading it*? At any rate, my tentative plan is to do both -- port hot articles AND improve them if I can.--Thomas Wright Sulcer 13:05, 26 February 2010 (UTC)