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== Change the wiki 'skin'? == | |||
It's possibly worth looking at changing the default 'skin' of this wiki (the design) to something else - e.g. what we had before late 2008, which was 'Monobook', or 'Vector', the current Wikipedia design. (Switching requires little work, since both are already installed, though there would have to be some tweaking of some pages here and there.) The reasons I've being thinking about this follow. | |||
*The current default skin, 'Pinkwich5', was created especially for Citizendium by [[User:Derek Harkness|Derek Harkness]], who left the project some years ago. This means that there is no support for the skin, and no subsequent development. | |||
*The way that Pinkwich5 was introduced is somewhat murky. Larry announced that there would be a new skin to distinguish us from Wikipedia, and there seemed to be general agreement on the forums over Pinkwich5. But as [http://forum.citizendium.org/index.php/topic,2969.0.html Matt later said], what happened was that the people who weren't on the forums woke up and found a new skin that took some getting used to (to be polite). In other words, there was no vote or wide-ranging consultation. (To digress, this was another consequence of having separate forums.) | |||
*I have recently discovered a possible technical problem with Pinkwich5 on the horizon, which might apply when the wiki is upgraded (we are on 1.16.5 of MediaWiki, which is no longer supported). From 1.25.0, which is scheduled for full release in May 2015, they have [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Skin_autodiscovery changed the way the skins work]. I have tried to use Pinkwich5 on a local copy of Citizendium with MediaWiki 1.23 installed on my PC, which brought up a warning message that 1.25 will change everything. When I tried to migrate Pinkwich5 over to the forthcoming way of doing things, I got more errors which rendered the site unreadable. Now, ''I don't really know what I'm doing'', but it seems that at the very least remaining with Pinkwich5 will entail some extra technical work during any future upgrade of the MediaWiki software. We also can't rely on any other parties to do the hard work, since Pinkwich5 is unique to us. I have been in contact with Greg, who says that an upgrade is not on the cards for the near future, so when it happens, we'd probably be getting 1.25+. | |||
What do you think? Do you use the default skin? You can try other skins by going to 'Preferences' and clicking 'Appearance'. [[User:John Stephenson|John Stephenson]] 23:10, 2 October 2014 (UTC) | |||
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Change the wiki 'skin'?
It's possibly worth looking at changing the default 'skin' of this wiki (the design) to something else - e.g. what we had before late 2008, which was 'Monobook', or 'Vector', the current Wikipedia design. (Switching requires little work, since both are already installed, though there would have to be some tweaking of some pages here and there.) The reasons I've being thinking about this follow.
- The current default skin, 'Pinkwich5', was created especially for Citizendium by Derek Harkness, who left the project some years ago. This means that there is no support for the skin, and no subsequent development.
- The way that Pinkwich5 was introduced is somewhat murky. Larry announced that there would be a new skin to distinguish us from Wikipedia, and there seemed to be general agreement on the forums over Pinkwich5. But as Matt later said, what happened was that the people who weren't on the forums woke up and found a new skin that took some getting used to (to be polite). In other words, there was no vote or wide-ranging consultation. (To digress, this was another consequence of having separate forums.)
- I have recently discovered a possible technical problem with Pinkwich5 on the horizon, which might apply when the wiki is upgraded (we are on 1.16.5 of MediaWiki, which is no longer supported). From 1.25.0, which is scheduled for full release in May 2015, they have changed the way the skins work. I have tried to use Pinkwich5 on a local copy of Citizendium with MediaWiki 1.23 installed on my PC, which brought up a warning message that 1.25 will change everything. When I tried to migrate Pinkwich5 over to the forthcoming way of doing things, I got more errors which rendered the site unreadable. Now, I don't really know what I'm doing, but it seems that at the very least remaining with Pinkwich5 will entail some extra technical work during any future upgrade of the MediaWiki software. We also can't rely on any other parties to do the hard work, since Pinkwich5 is unique to us. I have been in contact with Greg, who says that an upgrade is not on the cards for the near future, so when it happens, we'd probably be getting 1.25+.
What do you think? Do you use the default skin? You can try other skins by going to 'Preferences' and clicking 'Appearance'. John Stephenson 23:10, 2 October 2014 (UTC)