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Stephen Ewen 04:26, 20 June 2007 (CDT)





These terms required by the APS are remarkably precise! Sounds to me as though their paradigms are still stuck in the "print era" gear!

I wanted to mention, though, assuming this talk page is meant to be liked with a yet-to-be-written entry for "Eskimo" -- this is a prejorative term to many groups of northern peoples -- in the Eastern Canadian Arctic, it's considreed outmoded and insulting. In Greenland, however, the term is view more neutrally. The preferred term in Canada is Inuit -- which, like most peoples' terms for themselves, translates to "People." There are many distinct groups; in Alaska, you have the Iñupiat, the Yup'ik, and the Aleut; in Greenland you have East and West Greenlandic Eskimo, and in norrthwest Greenland you have the Inighuit (who used to be known as the "Polar Eskimos." So I think we should be careful not to end up with "Eskimo" as our main entry term: I think "Inuit" would be much preferable. Russell Potter 08:04, 20 June 2007 (CDT)

Thanks for the page move -- at work now on the entry. Russell Potter 18:54, 20 June 2007 (CDT)

Actually, according to this page, some 29K of the 60K Eskimos live in Alaska, and generally have no trouble with the word "Eskimo." If the article does not live at Eskimo, then there should be a short article at that URL saying what it means, explaining a little about where and how the term is used, and referring people to Inuit for further information.

As a general rule, we should name articles based on the most common correct word for the thing. This makes the articles most easily findable. People looking for information about Eskimos will in many cases not know that they are called "Inuit" as well. I would leave it to actual anthropologists to make a ruling on whether "Eskimo" really is pejorative. I won't take a position on the question myself--I just wanted to contribute the above information. --Larry Sanger 19:41, 20 June 2007 (CDT) (of Alaska)

Larry, we can always have a redirect for that. If the common name for a people or group of people is known to be prejorative to those people, to my mind it should not be used in a reference work. I don't know how native folks you knew in Alaksa felt about "Eskimo" as a term -- there you have several different peoples, as you know, who get lumped under that term (Iñupiat, Yup'ik, and Aleut), but in the eastern Arctic in Canada it's a term regarded with universal disdain by Inuit there. In Greenland, "Eskimo" is regarded more neutrally, though "Kalaallit" is increasingly preferred. Lastly, I'm not sure the anthropologists are necessarily the best people to rule on such a thing -- the people themselves, and/or countries such as Canada which recognize official names of First Nations groups, are the real authorities -- maybe the Geography workgroup would be more applicable. Russell Potter 21:05, 20 June 2007 (CDT)

"Eskimo" is in very common use in Alaska. I agree that the people themselves are the ones to say, but the relevant anthropologists (and others very familiar with the Inuit) will be able to say definitively how widespread the attitude is. Note, it's also pretty common knowledge in Alaska that there is a significant difference between eskimos, on the one hand, and Aleuts and Athabaskans (neither of which are Eskimos properly speaking).

Please note this which seems to be the (uncredited!!!) source for a bit of our (Wikipedia-sourced) text! Ugh. --Larry Sanger 22:34, 20 June 2007 (CDT)