Talk:Linda Greenhouse

Multiple problems.

Again, there is no obvious reason that there is more than a paragraph or two that belongs in an integrated article about media coverage about Bush 43 administration policy coverage.

Note that 350px is an inappropriate size for an image not truly needing fine detail.

The lengthy quotes in footnotes are inappropriate. If the quote is appropriate, or preferably a paraphrase of it, it belongs in the main article, rather than forcing the reader to have to click every citation to see if it does, or does not, add more than bibliographic data.

Yes. Put quotes in the text. I'd often prefer an actual quote to a paraphrase, less chance of unannounced writer bias slipping in. However, CZ:Article_Mechanics#Quotations says "Quotations should not be used to “make an argument”; an argument is made by logic and reason, not by authority, and if a quote is used to support an argument by showing that important people agree with the point, then this is a misuse." Some of the quotes here look dubious to me by that citerion. Sandy Harris 08:35, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

There were few links to the article, so it would be unlikely to be found by a reader.

Recommend merging substance into general coverage and deleting this article. Howard C. Berkowitz 16:26, 31 October 2008 (UTC) Military Workgroup Editor.

Most of my wiki experience is on the travel guide site Wikitravel. Policy there is to have articles only for destinations ("can you sleep there") not attractions (museums, etc.) or facilities (hotels, etc.). However, any name a user is likely to search for is created as a redirect. For example, a "Taj Mahal" article exists but it is a link to "Agra", the city where the Taj is located. This both makes it easier for users to find things within the wiki and makes our pages more likely to be found by search engines.

I would say deleting this article should be considered out of the question. There should absolutely be a Greenhouse article since people may well search on her name. The only question is whether that article has text or is a redirect into some broader article. I don't know the area well enough to have an opinion on that. Sandy Harris 03:38, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

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Linda Greenhouse is a Pullitzer Prize winning legal journalist. Greenhouse who wrote for the New York Times from 1968 to early 2008. Greenhouse began covering the United States Supreme Court in 1972. Greenhouse has appeared as a legal expert on various televsion news shows.

Covering the Supreme Court's rulings on Guantanamo captives

Greenhouse's husband, Eugene R. Fidell, is also a lawyer -- a specialist in military law. He has been a critic of the Bush Presidency's policy on captives taken in the "war on terror".

On January 20, 2008 Clark Hoyt, of the New York Times described Fidell holding back in participating in preparing a brief submitted to the Supreme Court on behalf of National Institute of Military Justice and the Bar Association of the District of Columbia because of the concern it would be considered a conflict of interest, due to his wife covering the case.

On January 22, 2008 Slate magazine, published an article written by Emily Bazelon and Dahlia Lithwick, criticizing the New York Times for failing to show more support for their employee.

According to Bazelon and Lithwick the main critic of Greenhouse covering stories where her husband Fidell has a role is M. Edward Whelan III of the National Review. They wrote:

Unable to point to any actual bias, Whelan resorts to the petulant claim that the effect of Fidell's involvement in the detainee cases "would be impossible to separate … from the broader political bias that pervades so much of Greenhouse's reporting."

Resignation

Greenhouse and the New York Times negotiated a buyout and voluntary resignation in late February 2008. The New York Times had announced a plan to trim 100 staff members, and had asked staff to consider volunteering for a buyout.