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[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Doctor_Who_(series_13) A WP talk page] seems to say the screen titles give episode number and title but not serial title: curiouser and curiouser. [[User:Peter Jackson|Peter Jackson]] ([[User talk:Peter Jackson|talk]]) 11:21, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Doctor_Who_(series_13) A WP talk page] seems to say the screen titles give episode number and title but not serial title: curiouser and curiouser. [[User:Peter Jackson|Peter Jackson]] ([[User talk:Peter Jackson|talk]]) 11:21, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
:I'm not sure what that refers to. The titling is a bit of a mess. In the opening credits it says ''Doctor Who'' with ''Flux'' underneath (which has led fans to complain that they've renamed the whole show to ''Doctor Who Flux''!), then on the next screen for the first episode it says ''Chapter One: The Halloween Apocalypse''. However, the iPlayer just calls it ''[https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m00116r4/doctor-who-series-13-1-the-halloween-apocalypse The Halloween Apocalypse]''. Anyway, I'm pretty sure it's correct that this is the first time there has been a series and an episode title at once. Is the ''Chapter'' bit really an episode number, though? I lean towards no. [[User:John Stephenson|John Stephenson]] ([[User talk:John Stephenson|talk]]) 14:53, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
::I'll take your word as more reliable than the WP talk page, so what I've written is essentially accurate. As to exact wording, over the period 1966-89 when this was normal, screen titles varied: Episode/Part/[nothing] 1/One. So I'm inclined to treat this as just another variation, but feel free to amend the wording if you like. [[User:Peter Jackson|Peter Jackson]] ([[User talk:Peter Jackson|talk]]) 11:01, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
== could you take a lot at these directions? ==
While it isn't something that anyone can do, for those who want to create an article cluster with subpages, I've tried to document the manual process that I've been using.  Please take a look at [[User:Pat_Palmer/sandbox/How_to_create_a_subpages_article_manually]] and let me know your thoughts.  Can it be done better, etc?  I have no idea if we'll ever come up with an automated way to do it or not, so in the meantime, we'll have this when it's really important.  What do you think? [[User:Pat Palmer|Pat Palmer]] ([[User talk:Pat Palmer|talk]]) 14:24, 25 March 2022 (CDT)
:Will take a look. [[User:John Stephenson|John Stephenson]] ([[User talk:John Stephenson|talk]]) 18:19, 25 March 2022 (CDT)
== Password ==
Found in Spam. [[User:Peter Jackson|Peter Jackson]] ([[User talk:Peter Jackson|talk]]) 05:19, 31 March 2022 (CDT)
I've now moved both those emails into Inbox, which should reduce the risk of similar problems in future. [[User:Peter Jackson|Peter Jackson]] ([[User talk:Peter Jackson|talk]]) 04:29, 1 April 2022 (CDT)
== Name of [[Liz Truss]] ==
Please discuss on talk page. [[User:Peter Jackson|Peter Jackson]] ([[User talk:Peter Jackson|talk]]) 04:24, 7 September 2022 (CDT)
== Is it Cambridge or Cornwall? ==
The title of article [[Prince_William,_Duke_of_Cambridge]] says Duke of '''Cambridge''' but the first paragraph now says Duke of '''Cornwall'''.  This Yank is confused. [[User:Pat Palmer|Pat Palmer]] ([[User talk:Pat Palmer|talk]]) 12:56, 8 September 2022 (CDT)
:Both. William automatically becomes Duke of Cornwall as male heir to the throne. The title, as far as I know, precedes other dukedoms. We don't yet know for certain how he will be referred to, though, so I'm leaving page moves alone for the time being. Same for Charles, who might be George VII rather than Charles III. [[User:John Stephenson|John Stephenson]] ([[User talk:John Stephenson|talk]]) 12:59, 8 September 2022 (CDT)
::You're right on precedence of titles. He's now D of Cornwall, Rothesay & Cambridge, in that order. No doubt he'll be created P of Wales in due course.
::On the 2nd point, both the PM & Clarence House have jumped the gun on the accession proclamation, saying he is C III. [[User:Peter Jackson|Peter Jackson]] ([[User talk:Peter Jackson|talk]])
:::Charles has acted swiftly to curtail this debate, as William and Kate are now Prince and Princess of Wales. :) [[User:John Stephenson|John Stephenson]] ([[User talk:John Stephenson|talk]]) 12:58, 9 September 2022 (CDT)
== Is it possible to lift and move the discussion now on my Talk page to the Forums? ==
John, There is a long thread developing on [[User_talk:Pat_Palmer#Could_you_please_explain...|my Talk page]] about whether the wiki should have articles about violent crimes.  I think this is an important discussion, and although I am editor in chief (reluctantly), I don't think my voice should be the only one heard.  Thankfully, Peter Jackson is playing devil's advocate.  Could this whole thread be lifted and moved to the Forums where it might attract other commentary in the future from a wider audience?  Or should it? [[User:Pat Palmer|Pat Palmer]] ([[User talk:Pat Palmer|talk]]) 08:37, 1 December 2022 (CST)
:I think it should. As for moving it, you can copy-and-paste, which would obviously not preserve the history, or move the entire page and cut out the earlier posts (before copy-and-pasting them back to your Talk page). You can't split page histories. I can do that if you like. [[User:John Stephenson|John Stephenson]] ([[User talk:John Stephenson|talk]]) 16:57, 2 December 2022 (CST)
::I would appreciate it if you could do it. Thanks in advance. However you think best or easiest.[[User:Pat Palmer|Pat Palmer]] ([[User talk:Pat Palmer|talk]]) 15:21, 3 December 2022 (CST)
:::And, thanks a bunch for doing that![[User:Pat Palmer|Pat Palmer]] ([[User talk:Pat Palmer|talk]]) 12:33, 4 December 2022 (CST)
== CZ namespace articles - consolidation, cleanup, re-org? ==
Hi John, You may not have the bandwidth, but I'll ask anyway.  I think the wiki would benefit from consolidating, cleaning up and simplifying a lot of the existing CZ namespace articles, including especially those now linked in the sidebar, but also many others which are still accessible and have not been deleted or Archived.  To find the ones needing attention, I'm doing a slow manual search of the namespace and capturing the pages needing attention, currently at: [[User:Pat_Palmer/sandbox/CZ_namespace_cleanup]].  In trying to debate article inclusion policy (as is now being done in the Content forum), I could not easily locate or find exactly what policy or policies have been enforced in the past.  It's a mess too because there are lots of bits of obsolete material there now.  For some pages, I'm temporarily slapping on [[Template:NoLongerApplies|<nowiki>{{NoLongerApplies}}</nowiki>]]. We also need some kind of Table of Contents to it all (maybe [[CZ:Sitemap]] was once intended to be that but it's now a hot mess along with all of the rest of it).  Feel free to make notes and comments on my sandbox page, OR, we could move that out to CZ namespace and use it for collaboration if you think you might be able to help.[[User:Pat Palmer|Pat Palmer]] ([[User talk:Pat Palmer|talk]]) 10:56, 11 December 2022 (CST)

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Thank you for the changes you have made, removing a source of irritation. Much appreciated. I have suggested another change on the talk page of Scarborough Castle. --Martin Wyatt (talk) 20:16, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Question on origin of Roman alphabet

John, In case it's not on your watchlist, please see my comment on Talk:Roman_alphabet. You might know more than I. I did not read the entire article so, just glanced at the Origin section, and it bothered me a bit.Pat Palmer (talk) 15:29, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Acad´emie Francaise

John, I've added some new material to the Academy entry, including a section on the Acad´emie Francaise as the custodian of the French language. I believe this falls within your area of professional expertise so i would appreciate it if you would take a look at it, strike out anything that is totally wrong and correct any subtleties that you think need it. Thanks Roger A. Lohmann (talk) 13:08, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

(Update): Since I wrote the note above, I've added a few additional sections on other language academies. Same questions apply, if you will. Again, thanks.Roger A. Lohmann (talk) 14:32, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
OK, will take a look when I can. Thanks for your note. John Stephenson (talk) 15:23, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
Thanks. No problem. No hurry. Roger A. Lohmann (talk) 18:46, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

Adding a new article

I hope you are doing well and having a great time. I have a question regarding adding a new article. Actually, I have many good topics in my mind but I am not sure which one will be accepted or rejected by Citizendium. Could you please give me some information about choosing a right topic? Thanks in advance. Amin Mahmoudi (talk) 17:37, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

Please test Tim's wiki mail

Hi, John. I'm sorry I didn't see your message about the Write-a-Thon. I checked my email configuration. I should be receiving email notifications but don't recall seeing one back in January. Would you mind leaving another piece of wiki mail so I can check while I'm actively watching? (I mean, just sometime in coming days. No rush.) Tim Chambers (talk) 17:35, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

Thanks. Just saw your wikimail. I am not getting email notifications, not in spam folder, and will do more troubleshooting on my end. Tim Chambers (talk) 04:51, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

Doctor Who/Timelines

Have you watched the latest? I've added a note on that page which is not explicitly supported by DW Wiki, and WP hasn't got round to including any information on the actual broadcast yet, but this seems to be implied. If it's wrong please delete. Peter Jackson (talk) 10:54, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

A WP talk page seems to say the screen titles give episode number and title but not serial title: curiouser and curiouser. Peter Jackson (talk) 11:21, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

I'm not sure what that refers to. The titling is a bit of a mess. In the opening credits it says Doctor Who with Flux underneath (which has led fans to complain that they've renamed the whole show to Doctor Who Flux!), then on the next screen for the first episode it says Chapter One: The Halloween Apocalypse. However, the iPlayer just calls it The Halloween Apocalypse. Anyway, I'm pretty sure it's correct that this is the first time there has been a series and an episode title at once. Is the Chapter bit really an episode number, though? I lean towards no. John Stephenson (talk) 14:53, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
I'll take your word as more reliable than the WP talk page, so what I've written is essentially accurate. As to exact wording, over the period 1966-89 when this was normal, screen titles varied: Episode/Part/[nothing] 1/One. So I'm inclined to treat this as just another variation, but feel free to amend the wording if you like. Peter Jackson (talk) 11:01, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

could you take a lot at these directions?

While it isn't something that anyone can do, for those who want to create an article cluster with subpages, I've tried to document the manual process that I've been using. Please take a look at User:Pat_Palmer/sandbox/How_to_create_a_subpages_article_manually and let me know your thoughts. Can it be done better, etc? I have no idea if we'll ever come up with an automated way to do it or not, so in the meantime, we'll have this when it's really important. What do you think? Pat Palmer (talk) 14:24, 25 March 2022 (CDT)

Will take a look. John Stephenson (talk) 18:19, 25 March 2022 (CDT)

Password

Found in Spam. Peter Jackson (talk) 05:19, 31 March 2022 (CDT)

I've now moved both those emails into Inbox, which should reduce the risk of similar problems in future. Peter Jackson (talk) 04:29, 1 April 2022 (CDT)

Name of Liz Truss

Please discuss on talk page. Peter Jackson (talk) 04:24, 7 September 2022 (CDT)

Is it Cambridge or Cornwall?

The title of article Prince_William,_Duke_of_Cambridge says Duke of Cambridge but the first paragraph now says Duke of Cornwall. This Yank is confused. Pat Palmer (talk) 12:56, 8 September 2022 (CDT)

Both. William automatically becomes Duke of Cornwall as male heir to the throne. The title, as far as I know, precedes other dukedoms. We don't yet know for certain how he will be referred to, though, so I'm leaving page moves alone for the time being. Same for Charles, who might be George VII rather than Charles III. John Stephenson (talk) 12:59, 8 September 2022 (CDT)
You're right on precedence of titles. He's now D of Cornwall, Rothesay & Cambridge, in that order. No doubt he'll be created P of Wales in due course.
On the 2nd point, both the PM & Clarence House have jumped the gun on the accession proclamation, saying he is C III. Peter Jackson (talk)
Charles has acted swiftly to curtail this debate, as William and Kate are now Prince and Princess of Wales. :) John Stephenson (talk) 12:58, 9 September 2022 (CDT)

Is it possible to lift and move the discussion now on my Talk page to the Forums?

John, There is a long thread developing on my Talk page about whether the wiki should have articles about violent crimes. I think this is an important discussion, and although I am editor in chief (reluctantly), I don't think my voice should be the only one heard. Thankfully, Peter Jackson is playing devil's advocate. Could this whole thread be lifted and moved to the Forums where it might attract other commentary in the future from a wider audience? Or should it? Pat Palmer (talk) 08:37, 1 December 2022 (CST)

I think it should. As for moving it, you can copy-and-paste, which would obviously not preserve the history, or move the entire page and cut out the earlier posts (before copy-and-pasting them back to your Talk page). You can't split page histories. I can do that if you like. John Stephenson (talk) 16:57, 2 December 2022 (CST)
I would appreciate it if you could do it. Thanks in advance. However you think best or easiest.Pat Palmer (talk) 15:21, 3 December 2022 (CST)
And, thanks a bunch for doing that!Pat Palmer (talk) 12:33, 4 December 2022 (CST)

CZ namespace articles - consolidation, cleanup, re-org?

Hi John, You may not have the bandwidth, but I'll ask anyway. I think the wiki would benefit from consolidating, cleaning up and simplifying a lot of the existing CZ namespace articles, including especially those now linked in the sidebar, but also many others which are still accessible and have not been deleted or Archived. To find the ones needing attention, I'm doing a slow manual search of the namespace and capturing the pages needing attention, currently at: User:Pat_Palmer/sandbox/CZ_namespace_cleanup. In trying to debate article inclusion policy (as is now being done in the Content forum), I could not easily locate or find exactly what policy or policies have been enforced in the past. It's a mess too because there are lots of bits of obsolete material there now. For some pages, I'm temporarily slapping on {{NoLongerApplies}}. We also need some kind of Table of Contents to it all (maybe CZ:Sitemap was once intended to be that but it's now a hot mess along with all of the rest of it). Feel free to make notes and comments on my sandbox page, OR, we could move that out to CZ namespace and use it for collaboration if you think you might be able to help.Pat Palmer (talk) 10:56, 11 December 2022 (CST)