CZ Talk:Subpages

Invited, Signed Articles

I presume invitations can go to CZ non-members, Albert Gore, say. --Anthony.Sebastian (Talk) 17:55, 5 July 2007 (CDT)

Right. --Larry Sanger 10:16, 6 July 2007 (CDT)

For students

Could we provide another version of the main article targeting Middle--to--High-School, or even younger depending on article? --Anthony.Sebastian (Talk) 17:58, 5 July 2007 (CDT)

Yes, we could. Good idea; it's technically feasible to start up both "expert" and "middle-school" level articles. --Larry Sanger 10:16, 6 July 2007 (CDT)

Earlier nominations

Nominated articles

Anybody can nominate an article here

Biology

Yea

• Anthony.Sebastian (Talk)
• Stephen Ewen (Talk)

Nay

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Economics

Yea

• Janos Abel

Nay

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systems biology

Yea

• Thomas Mandel

nay

• Anthony.Sebastian (Talk) (needs work}

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Literature

Yea

Nay

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Periodic Table of Elements

Yea

Nay

Discussion

Purpose?

I can't see how, aside from perhaps the debate and news guides and invited articles this whole subpage thing will be helpful. Is there an essential difference from including the bibliography in the article, aside from fragmenting the information? I don't particularly relish the thought of moving back and forth between subpages to read referenced material or see pictures. I'd rather just scroll through a well-organized collection of information. James A. Flippin 01:28, 9 July 2007 (CDT)

As I understand it, the references section in articles will stay; the bibliography subpage will be different, a collection of great sources for further reading on the subject. If I am mistaken, if it removes all references to a subpage, I very much agree with you. It would be needless and very frustrating fragmentation, akin to the frustration of reading a book with all its references in the back rather than at the bottom of the page...constantly, constantly, constantly having to flip between the text and the references cited.

Regarding the Gallery, I understand the same principle will operate. The gallery will be additional photos not contained in the text, a "pictorial article" of sorts, ideally. For an example, see Onslow Beach and click on the gallery link.

One issue going on right now you mgith wish to weigh in on is the placement location of the subpage links/box. See http://forum.citizendium.org/index.php/topic,1059.0.html if you wish to see various examples and give your opinion on the matter.

 —Stephen Ewen (Talk) 02:48, 9 July 2007 (CDT)

I believe the bibliography and weblinks in the subpages are meant to be annotated as well. For long lists of sources, this would make for very long articles if they were left in the main article space. --Joe Quick (Talk) 03:02, 9 July 2007 (CDT)

Page headers

Can't we just include the page header in the subpages template so it is automated? This will ensure the correct headers are used in all cases. Chris Day (talk) 09:34, 19 July 2007 (CDT)

I just added some code to the top of the subpages template that allows the correct header template to be identifed and placed automatically. Note now that each subpage in biology has two headers. One from the subpages template and one that was placed manually. This should save time and be less confusing for people who are creating new subpages (i.e. only one tempate to worry about.) Chris Day (talk) 10:52, 19 July 2007 (CDT)

The metadata subpage is missing. You can start it via filling in this form or by following the instructions that come up after clicking on the [show] link to the right.

Do you see this on PREVIEW? then SAVE! before following a link. To find out more about the use of metadata for the management of Citizendium pages, see CZ:Metadata. You may see this box for one of two reasons. Either: A - New page has been created, or subpages template was added to an existing page B - Cluster move is in progress Click either the A or B link for further instructions. [Feel free to recommend improvements to the text or links in this template] A - For a New Cluster use the following directions Subpages format requires a metadata page. Using the following instructions will complete the process of creating this article's subpages. Click the blue "metadata template" link below to create the page. On the edit page that appears paste in the article's title across from "pagename =". You might also fill out the checklist part of the form. Ignore the rest. For background, see Using the Subpages template Don't worry--you'll get the hang of it right away. Remember to hit Save! the "metadata template". However, you can create articles without subpages. Just delete the {{subpages}} template from the top of this page and this prompt will disappear. :) Don't feel obligated to use subpages, it's more important that you write sentences, which you can always do without writing fancy code. [Feel free to recommend improvements to the text or links in this template] B - For a Cluster Move use the following directions The metadata template should be moved to the new name as the first step. Please revert this move and start by using the Move Cluster link at the top left of the talk page. The name prior to this move can be found at the following link. [Feel free to recommend improvements to the text or links in this template]

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