Citizendium - a community developing a quality, comprehensive compendium of knowledge, online and free.
Click here to join and contribute
CZ thanks our previous donors. Donate here. Treasurer's Financial Report

Talk:John Byron

From Citizendium
Jump to: navigation, search
This article is a stub and thus not approved.
Main Article
Discussion
Related Articles  [?]
Bibliography  [?]
External Links  [?]
Citable Version  [?]
 
To learn how to update the categories for this article, see here. To update categories, edit the metadata template.
 Definition John Byron was an eighteenth Century naval officer and explorer. [d] [e]
Checklist and Archives
 Workgroup category Military [Editors asked to check categories]
 Talk Archive none  English language variant British English

question...

A recent change, with many excellent new facts, states Byron was "promoted to Commodore".

Excuse me, but, prior to the late 19th and 20th Century, was it correct to say someone could be promoted to Commodore? In the Royal Navy didn't Post Captains who received an appointment to command several vessels retain their seniority on the Captains' list? And when the expedition was over:

  • didn't they stopped being called Commodore?
  • didn't their pay return to their Captain's pay?
  • didn't they return to wearing a Captain's uniform?
  • didn't Captains with a higher seniority on the Captains' list continue to out-rank them -- even if they had never received a Commodore's appointment?

I suggest if I am remembering this correctly it is incorrect to state he was promoted to Commodore.

Cheers! George Swan 10:49, 14 August 2008 (CDT)

Let me repeat, the August 14th edit introduced much excellent new info. Maybe it could say he "served as Commodore"? George Swan 22:31, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Bartleby quote

If I am reading the Bartleby quote properly it is attributed to another Admiral -- who died in 1746, when Byron was either still just a young midshipman, or very recently promoted. So, before most of Byron's distinguished career. I think either Bartleby attributed the quote to the wrong guy, or got his date of death wrong. However, I have read elsewhere that he was known as "foul weather Jack", so let's leave it. "Verifiability, not truth".

Cheers! George Swan 22:31, 4 November 2008 (UTC)