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::I assure you that the formal abbreviation used in all official documents is fYRoM. I much prefer this anyway, because it emphasises the temporariness (and ridiculousness) of the name: for the same reason, Greeks tend to use FYROM because this looks more permanent. I agree that the press tends to use uppercase only, but when did they ever get anything right? [[User:Martin Baldwin-Edwards|Martin Baldwin-Edwards]] 22:19, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
::I assure you that the formal abbreviation used in all official documents is fYRoM. I much prefer this anyway, because it emphasises the temporariness (and ridiculousness) of the name: for the same reason, Greeks tend to use FYROM because this looks more permanent. I agree that the press tends to use uppercase only, but when did they ever get anything right? [[User:Martin Baldwin-Edwards|Martin Baldwin-Edwards]] 22:19, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
:::A footnote to that effect would be in order: I too had only ever seen the awful FYROM. [[User:Ro Thorpe|Ro Thorpe]] 22:41, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
:::A footnote to that effect would be in order: I too had only ever seen the awful FYROM. [[User:Ro Thorpe|Ro Thorpe]] 22:41, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
::::If one wants to be extraordinarily correct, one might note that the UN alphabetizes the name of this member nation under "T" -- for "<i>the</I> former [etc.]," so perhaps it should be "tfYRoM". The UN doesn't call the United States "THE United States," or the UK "THE United Kingdom, but -- interpret it as you will -- does call tfYRoM "THE". [[User:Bruce M.Tindall|Bruce M.Tindall]] 03:02, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

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I have reverted the abbreviation to fYRoM because this is legally correct. The uppercase version is journalistic. Martin Baldwin-Edwards 15:27, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

The common use is FYROM, not fYRoM (really, it's the very first time I see fYRoM). You can't ignore the traditional use of typography in acronyms. No 'legally correct' setting of lowercase and uppercase has ever existed (trust the linguist). In any case, I won't struggle for such a tidbit.--Domergue Sumien 21:58, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
I assure you that the formal abbreviation used in all official documents is fYRoM. I much prefer this anyway, because it emphasises the temporariness (and ridiculousness) of the name: for the same reason, Greeks tend to use FYROM because this looks more permanent. I agree that the press tends to use uppercase only, but when did they ever get anything right? Martin Baldwin-Edwards 22:19, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
A footnote to that effect would be in order: I too had only ever seen the awful FYROM. Ro Thorpe 22:41, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
If one wants to be extraordinarily correct, one might note that the UN alphabetizes the name of this member nation under "T" -- for "the former [etc.]," so perhaps it should be "tfYRoM". The UN doesn't call the United States "THE United States," or the UK "THE United Kingdom, but -- interpret it as you will -- does call tfYRoM "THE". Bruce M.Tindall 03:02, 23 October 2008 (UTC)