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==Start independent article on [[Metabolic acidosis]]
Start of separate article on [[Metabolic acidosis]], removing former redirect to [[Acidosis]], as metabolic acidosis requires extensive development and merits independent treatment. [[User:Anthony.Sebastian|Anthony.Sebastian]] 02:49, 7 January 2010 (UTC)


== Start independent article on Metabolic acidosis ==
== Start independent article on Metabolic acidosis ==


Start new article, [[Metabolic acidosis]], removing previous redirect to [[Acidosis]], as metabolic acidosis requires extensive development and merits independent treatment. "See also: [[Acidosis]" inserted before lede.  [[User:Anthony.Sebastian|Anthony.Sebastian]] 03:01, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
Start new article, [[Metabolic acidosis]], removing previous redirect to [[Acidosis]], as metabolic acidosis requires extensive development and merits independent treatment. "See also: [[Acidosis]]" inserted before lede.  [[User:Anthony.Sebastian|Anthony.Sebastian]] 03:01, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
 
== Promote some content? ==
 
Anthony,
 
The material on [[acid-base homeostasis]] seems suitable for its own article, hierarchically superior to all the acidosis-related articles.
 
:Howard, I agree. I feel, however, we must give at least an outline of the subject to render [[Metabolic acidosis]] understandable and coherent.  The independent article can give a fuller treatment. [[User:Anthony.Sebastian|Anthony.Sebastian]] 16:25, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
 
::I think we are in violent agreement. Don't take the homeostasis material out of this article, but just copy it, at first, to an interim hierarchically higher article, so the user looking for an article on the broader topic will find it. I'll be happy to work on Related Articles there. As far as I know, we don't have any articles or definitions for electrolytes (in a specifically medical context), ABGs, etc. I vaguely remember writing about [[pulse oximetry]] and speaking of the difference between SpO2 and measured O2, but never really defining the base terms. Chastise me with scorpions. Where's my copy of ''Acid-Base, Fluids, and Electrolytes Made Ridiculously Simple''? --[[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 16:31, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
 
:::As usual, you have seen farther than I — please take your shoes off before standing on my shoulders ;). I'll follow your suggestion re separate article on homeostasis. I restrained my impulse to further develop the 'intracellular' discussion further, so thanks for giving me the idea for a restraint remover. [[User:Anthony.Sebastian|Anthony.Sebastian]] 03:14, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
 
Along these lines, I'd be delighted if you would create a structure for the intracellular and extracellular compartments and their various constituent fluids. You'll see that I'm referring to these in [[human iron metabolism]] and elsewhere, but I'd much rather someone with your expertise would standardize the terminology here. --[[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 04:04, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
 
:Will do. [[User:Anthony.Sebastian|Anthony.Sebastian]] 16:25, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
 
:Forgot to mention: I do not know the count of needing-further-development-articles I've started, or of I-wish-time-permitted-working-on-articles started by others I've jumped in on. Focus, Anthony. [[User:Anthony.Sebastian|Anthony.Sebastian]] 03:14, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

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 Definition Refers to an abnormal chemical compositional state of the body that clinicians characterize as abnormally increased acidity — measured as pH reduction or hydrogen ion concentration ([H+]) increase — accompanied by abnormally reduced bicarbonate concentration ([HCO3-]) concentration in the extracellular fluid compartment (ECF) of the body, acknowledging that in most cases similar compositional abnormalities exist in the intracellular fluid compartment (ICF) as well. [d] [e]
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Start independent article on Metabolic acidosis

Start new article, Metabolic acidosis, removing previous redirect to Acidosis, as metabolic acidosis requires extensive development and merits independent treatment. "See also: Acidosis" inserted before lede. Anthony.Sebastian 03:01, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Promote some content?

Anthony,

The material on acid-base homeostasis seems suitable for its own article, hierarchically superior to all the acidosis-related articles.

Howard, I agree. I feel, however, we must give at least an outline of the subject to render Metabolic acidosis understandable and coherent. The independent article can give a fuller treatment. Anthony.Sebastian 16:25, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
I think we are in violent agreement. Don't take the homeostasis material out of this article, but just copy it, at first, to an interim hierarchically higher article, so the user looking for an article on the broader topic will find it. I'll be happy to work on Related Articles there. As far as I know, we don't have any articles or definitions for electrolytes (in a specifically medical context), ABGs, etc. I vaguely remember writing about pulse oximetry and speaking of the difference between SpO2 and measured O2, but never really defining the base terms. Chastise me with scorpions. Where's my copy of Acid-Base, Fluids, and Electrolytes Made Ridiculously Simple? --Howard C. Berkowitz 16:31, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
As usual, you have seen farther than I — please take your shoes off before standing on my shoulders ;). I'll follow your suggestion re separate article on homeostasis. I restrained my impulse to further develop the 'intracellular' discussion further, so thanks for giving me the idea for a restraint remover. Anthony.Sebastian 03:14, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Along these lines, I'd be delighted if you would create a structure for the intracellular and extracellular compartments and their various constituent fluids. You'll see that I'm referring to these in human iron metabolism and elsewhere, but I'd much rather someone with your expertise would standardize the terminology here. --Howard C. Berkowitz 04:04, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

Will do. Anthony.Sebastian 16:25, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
Forgot to mention: I do not know the count of needing-further-development-articles I've started, or of I-wish-time-permitted-working-on-articles started by others I've jumped in on. Focus, Anthony. Anthony.Sebastian 03:14, 11 January 2010 (UTC)