User talk:Daniel Mietchen/Archive 2

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Biology articles started during Biology Week

Daniel, what does this mean:

Please use the format {{rpl|Your Article's name}}.

Will you give an example. --Anthony.Sebastian 22:26, 17 September 2008 (CDT)


It's not Monday anywhere yet, is it? --Larry Sanger 09:15, 21 September 2008 (CDT)

Thanks for checking but according to The World Time Clock, it was Monday on the Christmas Islands (24h ahead of Hawaii) before I put up the notice. Daniel Mietchen 16:51, 21 September 2008 (CDT)

Re your welcome message to newcomer Sjoerd Hoogwater

Hi, Daniel, I don't think we've met before. I noticed in your welcome message on the Talk page of newcomer Sjoerd Hoogwater, at User talk:Sjoerd Hoogwater, that your list of articles indicated that we need articles entitled Refinery and Gas processing. I just want to point out that we already have two very detailed articles entitled Natural gas processing and Petroleum refining processes which cover the subjects of refinery and gas processing quite well. In fact the Petroleum refining processes article is an Approved article.

If you want to see all of the articles currently in the Chemical Engineering field, please visit Category:Chemical Engineering Subgroup which now has 98 articles in it.

Best regards, Milton Beychok 01:29, 24 September 2008 (CDT)

Brain and Music

That's a very impressive brain & music program you've put together. I'll be most interested in the final results. It could be a real contribution to public discourse on the subject. Best of luck. William L. Benzon 14:12, 26 September 2008 (CDT)

Bio Week stats

Sorry for the delay, recently I'm not a frequent visitor here. Stats for the Bio Week may be a good idea. For technical reasons a dump takes a couple of days and it's not possible to do it at a given moment. Not really we need this, since any edit or action is timestamped anyway. It is enough to filter the dump that is usually taken at the beginning of the month. What kind of information would be most interesting in this case? Maybe human-related stats (number of editors, number of edits etc;). Any other ideas? Best, Aleksander Stos 10:00, 27 September 2008 (CDT)

Thanks for combat loading adjustments

I hadn't realized how much obsolete material was still in that article; I've updated it somewhat but it needs much more work. There is relevant material, among other places, at amphibious warfare and prepositioning ship.

One of these days, we really need to link articles where this was an issue. Falklands War is a stub, and there were very unusual cross-loading considerations due to the extreme distance and ad hoc organization, but the loss (especially) of the Atlantic Conveyor, with all but one of the medium/heavy helicopters, is useful as an example. The Bay of Pigs is a stunningly bad example (at the Falklands, they took a calculated risk).

Guadalcanal actually did have some combat loading, but RADM Fletcher didn't give sufficient unloading time. Gallipoli, an interest of mine, also deserves an article as one of the all-time examples of bad senior command, admittedly no amphibious doctrine, and missed opportunities (e.g., Anzac Cove). Howard C. Berkowitz 12:39, 29 September 2008 (CDT)


What were they in the last set of moves? I plan to fix some of the previous ones you mentioned but you implied there were some new surprises? Chris Day 08:06, 2 October 2008 (CDT)

By the way, thanks for being the guinea pig :) Chris Day 08:06, 2 October 2008 (CDT)


Many of the lists can live at subsubpages to a catalog subpage. We have a number of stand alone catalogs and lists that need to migrate to more appropriate homes. See:

Chris Day 09:28, 6 October 2008 (CDT)

Article of the week: Hydrogen bond

I just changed the article status of Hydrogen bond from a "3" to a "1". It was nominated for article of the week (front page feature) with yourself as specialist supporter, so I presume from that (as well as from reading it) that it should be a "1".

If it is still the leading vote-getter next Tuesday or Wednesday, I will put it on the front page.

James F. Perry 22:05, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Should that article be checked "partial content from Wikipedia"? James F. Perry 15:08, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
Yes, and I think it had that but I couldn't find it right now. Please ask someone else to check, as I'm going offline. -- Daniel Mietchen 16:59, 13 October 2008 (UTC)


I see you marked this article as incomplete. the template doesn't ask for details, but I wonder whether you have any specific suggestions for the sorts of things you think should be added. Peter Jackson 17:20, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Peter and Daniel: Excuse me for poking my nose into here. Peter, the status in the Metadata template was marked as a 2 by Daniel. That is a pretty good status rating. To move it up to 1, I would suggest that: (1) The Definition subpage be created and a definition be provided, (2) The Related Articles subpage be created and filled in as best as you can, (3) The Bibliography subpage be created and some books be listed (if possible), and (4) the External Links subpage be created and some links to external websites be provided (if possible). When creating those subpages, be sure that the template {{subpages}} is at the top of each of them.
I don't know enough about the Piquet game to comment on the content, but I would also suggest a very thorough spell check. Hope this helps and best regards, Milton Beychok 17:38, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
I am also not familiar enough with the game to comment on content but I agree with Milton's suggestions and would add that intrawiki links as well as some illustrations would be nice (and useful) additions (e.g. a picture of one the specific situations mentioned in the text). --Daniel Mietchen 18:15, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Can you help with Meteorology?

Daniel, I've been looking at your user page and the topics in which you are interested. Very impressive, indeed!! A few days ago, I created the Meteorology article because there were dozens and dozens of intrawiki links to that word in a good many CZ articles.

As I wrote on the Talk page of Meteorology, I really have a minimal knowledge of that field. Do you think that you might be able to expand that article ... or do you know someone who can do so?

Thanks for any help you can provide. Milton Beychok 22:19, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

DOI for Lorenz's paper does not work

Daniel, the DOI that you included in the reference for Lorenz's paper in the Meteorology article does not work. Can you correct it? If not, then please just delete that part of the reference. Thanks. Milton Beychok 17:02, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

The DOI is correct but contains < and > signs that cause problems with the citation template. --Daniel Mietchen 14:37, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Rathaus Leipzig

Hi Daniel, ich bin heute dazu gekommen das Rathaus zu fotografieren. Leider habe ich das Neue Rathaus fotografiert und eben erst bemerkt, dass du das alte haben möchtest :-( ... naja. Ich versuche es die nächsten Tage dann nochmal mit dem alten Rathaus :-) Wie du siehst gibt das Wetter leider momentan keine sehr schönen Bilder her. -- Alexander Wiebel 09:54, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

So ich habe jetzt das richtige Rathaus (mit Weihnachtsmarkt). [1] (die letzten zwei Bilder). Kann sein, dass das mit Markt nicht so gut ist, dann versuch ich es demnächst nochmal. Kommentare? -- Alexander Wiebel 15:47, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
Ein Bild parallel zur Fassade wär schöner, aber für's Prinzip reicht das. Mit Weihnachtsmarkt ist netter als ohne. Danke erstmal! --Daniel Mietchen 15:51, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
Ich habe versucht es hochzuladen. Wohl so etwa zwazig mal von verschiedenen Rechnern aus verschiedenen Netzwerken mit verschiedenen Browser. Seltsamerweise war es mir nicht möglich das Foto auf den Server zu bringen. Entweder der Broser fror ein, oder ich bekam sowas wie "Connection Interrupted". Strange. -- Alexander Wiebel 22:30, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi Daniel. Mein Problem war, dass die Datei knapp über 2MB war und ich das nicht bemerkt habe. Die Fehlermeldung ist auch alles andere als intuitiv. Altes Rathaus Leipzig.jpg. -- Alexander Wiebel 14:12, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Your testimony

Bitte let us have it! --Larry Sanger 21:02, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Done. --Daniel Mietchen 13:51, 2 January 2009 (UTC)


Hi. Thank you for editing Volga Tatar language, but I think we should avoid links to Ethnologue which do not provide reliable information. A lot of linguists criticize Ethnologue.--Domergue Sumien 15:14, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Cette source semble sérieuse et émane de l'Université du Michigan: [2]. Cordialement.--Domergue Sumien 16:39, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Griechische Buchstaben

Daniel, thank you for the corrections of the formatting of the Greek-letter disambiguation pages by the addition of the (disambig) and (dabhdr) templates. I was not aware of the correct way to annotate them. I will go through the whole alphabet and correct the other pages I have created. Thanks again. Bruce M.Tindall 21:01, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Plos One

Excellent :) Chris Day 15:09, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

I am always glad when I receive hints that somebody might actually read this stuff. --Daniel Mietchen 19:04, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Writing an Article - Incrementally

Hello Daniel! Thank you for your warm greetings and kind suggestions. I would like to start an article on protein folding (my passion), but I will not have time to write the entire piece in one sitting. Rather than posting an incomplete article in the public forum, is there a "sandbox" type of application that I can use? Just curious. Otherwise, I will go ahead and begin the page in the usual way. Thanks! Mitchell McGill 18:49, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Please excuse me for "butting in". I just created that personal sandbox for you, Mitchell. See your user Talk page for discussion on using the sandbox. Enjoy! Milton Beychok 20:31, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Citation template you recently used

Daniel: You recently added an article citation in Life/Bibliography, using a template I hadn't seen before. I tried it, it didn't work for me, you deleted it.

Will you explain what I did wrong, please. --Anthony.Sebastian 20:55, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

The "template" is transclusion. The problem was that the page you referenced (CZ:Ref:DOI:10.1016/j.shpsc.2006.09.009) did not exist. I just created it via (the automated reference wikificator suggested at the top of bibliography pages), and put it into the article, along with the abstract. Take another look, preferably in preview and/or diff mode. This kind of reference formatting is part of an experiment I have started in order to make the bibliographies more useful and less tedious to maintain. Your comments on that could be very helpful. I also recently blogged, from a broader perspective, about the topic. --Daniel Mietchen 11:54, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
Daniel, you may have posted this elsewhere and I've missed it, but I assume the series of entries you are creating, which begin CZ:Ref:DOI:..., are some type of common space for bibliographic references. Where can I find more details? I'm very interested in the idea, although I don't think that all of my references will have DOIs. Howard C. Berkowitz 15:09, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi Howard, more details can be found via the above-mentioned experiment. It works similarly well for CZ:Ref:ISBN or other identifiers that map at least injectively (but preferably bijectively) to a bibliographic item. The identifier-based pages do not necessarily bear human-readable names (e.g. CZ:Ref:DOI:10.1371/journal.pone.0001683), and so I have come to make regular use of human-readably shortcuts composed as CZ:Ref:FirstAuthorsLastName_Year_Title_of_the_item_as_it_appears_on_the_cover_page (i.e. CZ:Ref:Stringer 2008 Effectiveness of Journal Ranking Schemes as a Tool for Locating Information). Such a system may also be helpful in cases where no unique identifier is available, as with CZ:Ref:Mountcastle 1957 Modality and Topographic Properties of Single Neurons of Cat's Somatic Sensory Cortex. Pages that I use as a testing ground for this way of reference formatting include the bibliography subpages of gyrification, brain development and pages labeled as using what I call direct referencing. Your comments on usability and pitfalls would be very appreciated. --Daniel Mietchen 10:41, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Ideal gas law nominated for approval

Hi, Daniel and Happy New year! I have just nominated Ideal gas law for approval. Since I worked on that article to some extent, 2 more Chemistry or Physics editors are required to join in the nomination. I am inviting you join me in the nomination. If you have any questions on how to do that, let me know. Regards, Milton Beychok 20:12, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

I had a quick look and don't think it is ready yet. In brief:
  1. I share Paul's concerns with respect to the (in)elasticity
  2. The sections "Background" and "Special cases" largely overlap, while the article as a whole appears incomplete to me without some derivation from first principles (which could go into an Advanced subpage) and without some specific hints to non-specialists on why this law is important
  3. The Bibliography should contain some of the classic papers
  4. There should be some useful websites (e.g. with applets) to add to the External links

Hope this helps. --Daniel Mietchen 01:25, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Daniel, would you be so kind as to put your above comments on the Ideal gas law Talk page so that Paul or others will see them and perhaps respond to them? I don't think it would proper for me to move your comments there. Thanks, Milton Beychok 03:30, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
Daniel, please read the "Towards approval" section of the Ideal gas law Talk page where both Paul Wormer and I have made some comments. Also please make whatever changes in the article itself that you think are appropriate. I am hoping that all of us can collaborate in the next few days to bring the article up to the point that it can be approved. I have already made some of the changes suggested by Paul. Regards, Milton Beychok 17:17, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
Daniel, Paul Wormer has now done an extensive re-write of the Ideal gas law article and I would really like to have your collaboration as well. Would you please review, edit and/or comment on the re-written article? Thanks, Milton Beychok 16:44, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
I plan to do that on Wednesday. --Daniel Mietchen 17:51, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
Just a gentle reminder (I hope) that Ideal gas law still seeks your further input. Regards, Milton Beychok 19:15, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
Perhaps no electronic reminder can be gentle enough to handle some sorts of things that happen in meatspace. --Daniel Mietchen 03:08, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
You lost me with "meatspace", did you mean "metaspace"? (:>) In any event, I agree that switching those sections in the Ideal gas law does indeed help with digesting the derivation. Milton Beychok 04:47, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
Still working on the IGL article... For a definition of meatspace, see here. More explanation would require removing this redlink, for which I am not ready yet. --Daniel Mietchen 05:08, 11 January 2009 (UTC)


Daniel I am hoping your industry will be matched by suitable additions from our colleagues in the Humanities (they must be out there). Aladin 13:34, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

I of course am referring to your inclusions on the disambiguation pages. Aladin 13:37, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

We'll see. --Daniel Mietchen 13:38, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

We are hopeful. Aladin 13:55, 7 January 2009 (UTC)


....just to say how much your great work is appreciatedGareth Leng 15:00, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Seconded. Daniel, sorry no response to your blog piece. It is in my in-tray. OK, I admit it, under a pile on my desk. I will get to it. Chris Day 15:02, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
Social bookmarking is an old hat by now but I think its potential for scholarly communication has been widely underestimated (or ignored), and this wiki seems to me the currently most suitable platform to promote it. Detailed feedback on the topic (e.g. via this overview table) as well as on the annotation mechanics would certainly find appreciation, too. --Daniel Mietchen 16:11, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your work on Ideal gas law

Daniel, thanks for your work. As I just noted on the Talk page of Ideal gas law, I have now asked Paul to add his signature as the third approval nominator. Milton Beychok 18:39, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

request for approval by an editor

I request you to review the NMR spectroscopy article for approval.Sekhar Talluri 05:15, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Partition function

Daniel, see here for a proof of QqN / N! When you look at it you will understand why I did not include it in ideal gas law. --Paul Wormer 17:04, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

I see. Thanks! --Daniel Mietchen 18:54, 22 January 2009 (UTC)