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- Fine by me - Ro Thorpe 11:20, 1 June 2008 (CDT)
- Thanks! Will do. J. Noel Chiappa 11:28, 1 June 2008 (CDT)
- Shouldn't the most common or main use of something take the main article space? The letter "G" as an alphabet character is more commonly known than "G" to represent acceleration due to gravity. It might also be better to maintain consistency in naming conventions for alphabet characters. Mark Jones 13:01, 1 June 2008 (CDT)
- I don't have a particularly strong feeling one way or the other as to whether G should point at G (letter) or G (disambiguation), but the proposal on disambiguation mechanics, which most people seem happy with, does say that there won't be any actual article at G, just a redir. I set it to point to the dab page because I assume most people would want one of the other meanings of G, not just the letter, but maybe that's an incorrect assumption. J. Noel Chiappa 13:36, 1 June 2008 (CDT)
- My feelings aren't that strong on the matter either, other than for consistency. Someone will need to remember to make sure C, G (letter) (and any others) follow the standard.
- J. Noel, I've been wondering, since you included it in several edit summaries, what "dab" means. It now seems it probably means "disambiguation" but it initially confused me and will probably confuse others, especially new members. Could you avoid using Wikipedia-style neologisms as per Citizendium policy? Thanks. Mark Jones 15:16, 1 June 2008 (CDT)
- Umm, just "Noel".
- Sorry about the "dab"; yes, it does mean "dismabiguation", it's just so many blasted letters to type, and I type it so many times, after a while you just get desperate.
- Does anyone know how to set Windows to attach strings to special key-codes, so that (say) ALT-SHIFT-D inserted "disambiguation"? My usual editor (Epsilon) is programmable in that way, but Windows as a whole doesn't seem to be. It does have certain preset shortcut keys, but one doesn't seem to be able to change them. (And 'switch to Linux' isn't helpful! :-) J. Noel Chiappa 16:01, 1 June 2008 (CDT)
- I really don't think it's fair to expect disambiguation typed out every time. If that was required, I would just leave the edit summary blank. But, motivated by your question, Noel, I did a bit of searching and found this . I downloaded it and did a very brief check, and it seems to work perfectly. One problem I ran into, make sure to use shortcuts that you web browser isn't currently using. That can make it messy.
- Now, I wasn't going to say anything, but since you pointed it out, you can boot Linux from a CD without getting rid of your OS. But of course you already knew that :). John Dvorak 16:15, 1 June 2008 (CDT)
- I do sympathize. Personally, I don't expect to see everything typed out in full all the time but I was just thinking that many people (like myself) just monitor recent changes lists & email notices to help decide what to get involved in; an article may miss out on that involvement if the summary isn't clear. Alternatively, people have to go to the page to find out what's been going on which takes more time. Perhaps "disamb." as an abbreviation would be clearer to more people. Anyway, the software John found sounds quite good. I hope it does what you're looking for! :-) Mark Jones 18:13, 1 June 2008 (CDT)
- If it's just edit summaries you were noticing, that's easy to deal with - for typein boxes, IE remembers what you typed in there before, and if you type the first couple of characters, gives you all the previous entries that start with those characters. So once I type the message with "disambiguation" in full, it will remember it.
- And for everything else, the wonder tool John found will deal with it nicely! :-) J. Noel Chiappa 21:29, 1 June 2008 (CDT)
--The G Spot! Hayford Peirce 01:28, 23 November 2009 (UTC)