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 Definition A Linux implementation of the IPsec protocols, intended to make wholesale monitoring of the Internet impossible. [d] [e]

FreeS/WAN's main technical writer is now a Citizendium author, wrote most of this article, and has permission to reuse FreeS/WAN material here. 14:54, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

That's reasonable. Even when I quote from a public domain, peer-reviewed material to which I've contributed, such as an IETF RFC, I make certain that at least the footnote clearly shows my name. I may quote from one of my published books — I hate to say commercial when I look at the sales statements — I often not only make the footnote clear, but put a note on the talk page inviting people to discuss any appearance of conflict of interest.
People that are legitimate experts are apt to have publications and inventions, and it would be silly not to use them. At the same time, it's fair that the reader knows about any relationship. There are things where I was a significant contributor but am not listed as an author, or commercial products I helped design, that usefully illustrate articles. Still, I make some note, unless it was something that never became commercial and I'm recycling unpublished notes. Howard C. Berkowitz 17:25, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Cyberpunk and cypherpunk

I notice there's also an article on cyberpunk. While I've read Gibson et al., are these different areas of thought or should there be, at least, linkage?Howard C. Berkowitz 10:13, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

There's certainly some linkage, though they are different concepts. e.g. Neal Stephenson is often considered a cyberpunk writer. Have you read his Cryptonomicon? I highly recommend it if not. See ULTRA#Fictional_treatments. Quite a few characters in that book are on the "Secret Admirers" mailing list; that's obviously the old cypherpunk list. At some point, I may get to doing articles on Stephenson, Cryptonomicom and cypherpunks. WP has a decent article [[1]]. Sandy Harris 16:46, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
Laughing...yes, I remember reading Cryptonomicon, and having a doubletake that I was recognizing some apparently obscure references. In a reverse manner, in some of Dan Brown's novels, it's jarring for me to have a vivid description of the main hallway at NSA, which has no resemblance to the real thing (a mere "corridor after the 2010 renovation" would let me suspend disbelief.
No special urgency, other than I see a CZ culture of looking for, and pointing out, linkages as a key differentiator from WP. Howard C. Berkowitz 17:10, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Ready for approval?

This may be a tricky one. I'm the only contributor so far to the CZ article, and I was a member of the FreeS/WAN project. I've tried to be objective here, but I'm certainly not unbiased and might be too close to the whole thing for optimal perspective.

What do others think? Sandy Harris 13:56, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Any comment? Sandy Harris 04:33, 6 June 2012 (UTC)