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== Among my favorite Murphy's Laws of Combat ==
"When the pin is pulled, Mr. Grenade is no longer our friend."
I ''think'' it's apocryphal, but the tale is told of a grandmotherly type in a rough part of Manhattan, who grew tired of resisting purse snatchers. On the next occasion, she didn't fight back, but did manage to hold onto one item of sentimental value: the safety ring on the grenade inside. [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 23:37, 12 July 2008 (CDT)
== Where does this fit ==
New US Army weapon [http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/11/24/armys-revolutionary-rifle-use-afghanistan/?test=faces]. Enemy hides behind a wall. Lase the wall for range, aim above it. Mini-grenade explodes above him. [[User:Sandy Harris|Sandy Harris]] 09:53, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
:Sounds like the something-or-other 25, which used to be the OICW. The line between grenades and small-caliber explosive projectiles is getting very fine. I'd say that if the projectile travels at reasonably high velocity, it's no longer a grenade.
:Interesting you mention lasing, with presumptive homing on the laser spot.  I'll have to look where I put it, but with intelligent mortar shells, there's a trend to use GPS/inertial based on laser information, rather than direct laser guidance.  The scenario prompting that argument postulates a mortar, behind a wall, firing on troops. A scout, but not the counterfiring mortar, has line-of-sight on it. The scout uses a laser rangefinder (i.e., not designator), coupled with GPS, to precisely locate the target, and then sends encrypted digital coordinates to the firer. [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 16:24, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
::I'm going to edit the main article to indicate that mechanically projected grenades move at low speed compared with a bullet.  Perhaps I can follow up on your note; I've also seen notes in military journal about the weapon's deployment into Afghanistan. Not sure when I'll get to the details, and if there needs to be a spinoff on guided small arms projectiles. [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 18:01, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

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Among my favorite Murphy's Laws of Combat

"When the pin is pulled, Mr. Grenade is no longer our friend."

I think it's apocryphal, but the tale is told of a grandmotherly type in a rough part of Manhattan, who grew tired of resisting purse snatchers. On the next occasion, she didn't fight back, but did manage to hold onto one item of sentimental value: the safety ring on the grenade inside. Howard C. Berkowitz 23:37, 12 July 2008 (CDT)

Where does this fit

New US Army weapon [1]. Enemy hides behind a wall. Lase the wall for range, aim above it. Mini-grenade explodes above him. Sandy Harris 09:53, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Sounds like the something-or-other 25, which used to be the OICW. The line between grenades and small-caliber explosive projectiles is getting very fine. I'd say that if the projectile travels at reasonably high velocity, it's no longer a grenade.
Interesting you mention lasing, with presumptive homing on the laser spot. I'll have to look where I put it, but with intelligent mortar shells, there's a trend to use GPS/inertial based on laser information, rather than direct laser guidance. The scenario prompting that argument postulates a mortar, behind a wall, firing on troops. A scout, but not the counterfiring mortar, has line-of-sight on it. The scout uses a laser rangefinder (i.e., not designator), coupled with GPS, to precisely locate the target, and then sends encrypted digital coordinates to the firer. Howard C. Berkowitz 16:24, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
I'm going to edit the main article to indicate that mechanically projected grenades move at low speed compared with a bullet. Perhaps I can follow up on your note; I've also seen notes in military journal about the weapon's deployment into Afghanistan. Not sure when I'll get to the details, and if there needs to be a spinoff on guided small arms projectiles. Howard C. Berkowitz 18:01, 30 November 2010 (UTC)