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An automated statement I don't understand appears on the bibliographic page: "Please sort and annotate in a user-friendly manner. For formatting, consider using automated reference wikification." Annotation I understand, but what is the rest of this supposed to mean? (1) What is a user-friendly manner with respect to bibliographies? I had thought alphabetical might be that. (2) What in blazes is "automated reference wikification"? The Google page to which it links is no help at all. and (3) How (and when) does that notice disappear?
An automated statement I don't understand appears on the bibliographic page: "Please sort and annotate in a user-friendly manner. For formatting, consider using automated reference wikification." Annotation I understand, but what is the rest of this supposed to mean? (1) What is a user-friendly manner with respect to bibliographies? I had thought alphabetical might be that. (2) What in blazes is "automated reference wikification"? The Google page to which it links is no help at all. and (3) How (and when) does that notice disappear?
[[User:Roger Lohmann|Roger Lohmann]] 18:29, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
[[User:Roger Lohmann|Roger Lohmann]] 18:29, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
:Daniel [http://en.citizendium.org/wiki?title=Template:Bibliography_footer&diff=100412467&oldid=100392250 added that text].  I don't recall, if I ever knew, whether there was discussion at the time. [[User:Chris Day|Chris Day]] 19:33, 13 February 2009 (UTC)


== Probably not giving circles, but what are they? ==
== Probably not giving circles, but what are they? ==
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Is there a unifying principle between what-I-said and classic giving circles? [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 18:38, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
Is there a unifying principle between what-I-said and classic giving circles? [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 18:38, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
===Great Question!===
That's a really great question! But I don't really know how to give it a good answer within the Citizendium brief of working with existing knowlege. (I think we'd have to do some original theorizing to link them and differentiate them clearly.) These are probably all related forms of giving, but I don't think current knowledge would allow us to tie them closely together in any exact ways. About all we can do at this point is do separate articles on all of them, link them and suggest that they are related. And, linking them to whatever we have on micro-credit also sounds like a good idea.
[[User:Roger Lohmann|Roger Lohmann]] 22:09, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
:As a starting point, I started [[Giving and Lending/Related Articles]]. Feel free to change the title; there is, as yet, no article. [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 22:28, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

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 Definition Form of philanthropy by a group of members who pool their funds and information in collective or joint donations; often contributing to organizations or causes in their community. [d] [e]
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Roger Lohmann 18:07, 13 February 2009 (UTC)


An automated statement I don't understand appears on the bibliographic page: "Please sort and annotate in a user-friendly manner. For formatting, consider using automated reference wikification." Annotation I understand, but what is the rest of this supposed to mean? (1) What is a user-friendly manner with respect to bibliographies? I had thought alphabetical might be that. (2) What in blazes is "automated reference wikification"? The Google page to which it links is no help at all. and (3) How (and when) does that notice disappear? Roger Lohmann 18:29, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Daniel added that text. I don't recall, if I ever knew, whether there was discussion at the time. Chris Day 19:33, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Probably not giving circles, but what are they?

Among West African and Korean friends, I see a custom where a group makes regular contributions to a fund, which, periodically, is made as a startup loan to a new business within the community. It is expected to be repaid, and repayment is a matter of honor, as is providing jobs within the community — although I've also seen such groups use an extended definition of community, being inviting to non-kin that have been supportive.

Would it be correct to call this a microloan, or is it more a social mechanism?

Is there a unifying principle between what-I-said and classic giving circles? Howard C. Berkowitz 18:38, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Great Question!

That's a really great question! But I don't really know how to give it a good answer within the Citizendium brief of working with existing knowlege. (I think we'd have to do some original theorizing to link them and differentiate them clearly.) These are probably all related forms of giving, but I don't think current knowledge would allow us to tie them closely together in any exact ways. About all we can do at this point is do separate articles on all of them, link them and suggest that they are related. And, linking them to whatever we have on micro-credit also sounds like a good idea. Roger Lohmann 22:09, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

As a starting point, I started Giving and Lending/Related Articles. Feel free to change the title; there is, as yet, no article. Howard C. Berkowitz 22:28, 13 February 2009 (UTC)