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| ==Questions== | | == For crying out loud == |
| | Now, there exists (thanks to guess how): |
| | * [[9-11 Attack]] |
| | * [[9-11 Attack in New York]] |
| | * [[9-11 Commission/Definition]] which redirects to [[National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States]] |
| | * [[9-11 Hijackers]] |
| | * [[9-11 conspiracy theory]] |
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| Is this the best title for this article? Looking at the redirects already creates, other options would be "September 11th terrorist attack", or "September 11, 2001 attacks", and the plural (or singular) of the existing title or the options. My personal preference would be [[September 11, 2001 attack]] or [[September 11, 2001 al-Qaeda attack]], but it's not a strong preference. I do think the title should be singular, as it was one coordinated effort.
| | All these must be merged into a single, comprehensive article that can be kept up-to-date in one location. Grrrr. I will make all these articles and add their merger/renaming to my todo list. [[User:Pat Palmer|Pat Palmer]] ([[User talk:Pat Palmer|talk]]) 13:42, 9 March 2024 (CST) |
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| There are at least a couple of naming questions: How should the group, and its leader, be referred to? The article inconsistently uses [[al Qaeda]] and [[al-Qaeda]], and uses [[Usama bin Ladin]], even though almost everyone other than the U.S. government uses "Osama" rather than "Usama". [[User:Anthony Argyriou|Anthony Argyriou]] 13:12, 6 July 2007 (CDT)
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| ::very good points! I prefer the "9-11" variation as more pointed than "Spetember 11" (it downplays the month -- also because 911 is the emergency phone #). Yes, "Osama" is better and I will change that. [[User:Richard Jensen|Richard Jensen]] 15:56, 6 July 2007 (CDT)
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| :::I'd prefer "9/11" to "9-11", but that messes with the mediawiki software. It'll be nice to see a good article here without having to constantly chase off the conspiracy theorists like they do at Wikipedia. [[User:Anthony Argyriou|Anthony Argyriou]] 16:52, 6 July 2007 (CDT)
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| ::I think the plural sounds better than the singular, but it's definitely better to use "September 11" rather than "9-11". [[User:Carl Jantzen|Carl Jantzen]] 09:08, 12 July 2007 (CDT)
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| Is there anyway we can clean this up to meet standards? [[User:Denis Cavanagh|Denis Cavanagh]] 04:12, 25 July 2007 (CDT)
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| :This article requires extensive modification to several sections, including the (unintentionally hilarious) 'World Response' section. I would like to quote "[http://en.citizendium.org/wiki?title=9-11_Attack&oldid=100133666#World_response ...The world had been accustomed to long-winded speeches about the need for actions which everyone knew would never happen. Now there was action, and the world stood in awe of America's vast military power unleashed with cold fury...]" - this section, from 12th July 2007, seems to be satire. [[User:John Stephenson|John Stephenson]] 04:48, 25 July 2007 (CDT)
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| I like Satire with the best of them but this I feel, was not deliberate satire. It needs to be cleaned up. [[User:Denis Cavanagh|Denis Cavanagh]] 05:43, 25 July 2007 (CDT)
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| == International Law and Iraq ==
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| Several places, this article says that the attack on Iraq was against international law. This is, at best, debateable. The United States had the authority to enforce the Gulf War ceas-fire, and an invasion of Iraq and removal of the Ba'ath regime was justified by Iraqi violations of the cease-fire. [[User:Anthony Argyriou|Anthony Argyriou]] 14:41, 25 July 2007 (CDT)
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