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== Why limit the work to academia? ==
Seth Wolley posted a comment somewhere (and I cannot find it now) saying that in discussing the possibilities of this project we should think outside the box.
As a non-academic lifelong autodidact I also wonder if it is wise to restrict contributions from academia only. Citizenship is a universal concept. Ensuring that the citizenry is properly educated to fulfil their responsibilities as citizens is also a general concern. Academic institutions are subject to control by the prevailing power structure and are not necessarily able to explore the full spectrum of educational needs of a changing society.
If the general readership could also request contributions on the kinds of issues that may be outside the remits of a conventional academic interest, a balance could be struck between quality and range of contributions. -- [[User:Janos Abel|Janos Abel]] 06:53, 16 June 2007 (CDT)
:Janos said, ''''Academic institutions are subject to control by the prevailing power structure and are not necessarily able to explore the full spectrum of educational needs of a changing society."''  While there are certainly ''pockets'' where this is true, I very strongly disagree with this as a sweeping generalization.  Read some works by Michael Apple or Ira Shor sometime.  As for limiting it to academia, how about instead experimenting with [http://blog.citizendium.org/2007/06/15/education-20/ something like this]?  [[User:Stephen Ewen|Stephen Ewen]] 19:28, 16 June 2007 (CDT)
::'''Draft response.''' Who am I to argue with someone with direct experience of academic life? Below is the hint of the current version of "control by the prevailing power structure".
<blockquote>"Among the issues addressed by Apple are the
advances of the New Right and the forms by which the conservative movements have
been articulating themselves politically to impose their views about textbooks, national
curriculum, and teacher education."</blockquote>

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Space to experiment with things without messing up working pages


Why limit the work to academia?

Seth Wolley posted a comment somewhere (and I cannot find it now) saying that in discussing the possibilities of this project we should think outside the box.

As a non-academic lifelong autodidact I also wonder if it is wise to restrict contributions from academia only. Citizenship is a universal concept. Ensuring that the citizenry is properly educated to fulfil their responsibilities as citizens is also a general concern. Academic institutions are subject to control by the prevailing power structure and are not necessarily able to explore the full spectrum of educational needs of a changing society.

If the general readership could also request contributions on the kinds of issues that may be outside the remits of a conventional academic interest, a balance could be struck between quality and range of contributions. -- Janos Abel 06:53, 16 June 2007 (CDT)

Janos said, ''Academic institutions are subject to control by the prevailing power structure and are not necessarily able to explore the full spectrum of educational needs of a changing society." While there are certainly pockets where this is true, I very strongly disagree with this as a sweeping generalization. Read some works by Michael Apple or Ira Shor sometime. As for limiting it to academia, how about instead experimenting with something like this? Stephen Ewen 19:28, 16 June 2007 (CDT)
Draft response. Who am I to argue with someone with direct experience of academic life? Below is the hint of the current version of "control by the prevailing power structure".

"Among the issues addressed by Apple are the

advances of the New Right and the forms by which the conservative movements have been articulating themselves politically to impose their views about textbooks, national

curriculum, and teacher education."