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== Should history articles be named with general terms first? ==
=Instructions=
{{proposal2
'''To start a new proposal or issue,''' simply click [http://en.citizendium.org/wiki?title=CZ:Proposals/New&action=edit&section=new&preload=Template:Proposal_blank this edit link] - it is recommended that you right-click the link, and select 'open in new window' to open it in a new window, so that you can continue to be able to read the instructions here in the old window. That link will provide an edit window containing a blank copy of the template which needs to be filled out in order to create a new proposal section here. Enter the details in the template, using the instructions below, and press save! That's it — it's very easy.
|Proposal number = 0001


|Brief descriptive title = Should history articles be named with general terms first?
Here's how to fill it out:
# <code>Brief descriptive title</code>. Make this brief, because it will be part of a page title. If you are raising an issue (ask for a decision among two or more options), please word the title as a question. '''Note:''' this exact same text goes in the <code>Subject/headline</code> box, too.
# <code>Summary of proposal</code>.  Limited to 100 words.
# <code>Name and date of original proposer</code>: write four tildes <code><nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></code>
# <code>Username of [[Archive:Proposals/Policy#The proposal driver|driver]]</code>. If you, write three tildes <code><nowiki>~~~</nowiki></code>; if someone else, specify.  This is the person who makes sure the proposal moves along from step to step in its development.  If the "driver" is left blank, and no one volunteers to be driver, your proposal may be moved to the "discarded" queue.  The driver should get familiar with [[Archive:Proposals/Policy|the proposals system policy page]].
# <code>Next step. </code>  The next thing you need to do to move the proposal toward reality.  Not sure what to write? [[Archive:Proposals/Policy#Keeping the proposal moving along|Hints here]].
# <code>Target date for next step</code>.  A date the driver commits to, for completing the next step.  If you drop the ball, the proposal may become [[CZ:Proposals/Driverless|driverless]].
# (Optional) <code>Notes</code>.  Brief salient remarks.  Bear in mind the bulk of the info about the proposal doesn't go here but on the (much bigger) proposal page.  A handy link to the proposal page will pop up after you save the template.


|Summary of proposal = Should general article names be written as [[France, history]] as preferred to [[History of France]] or [[French History]]?  The central points of contention is whether general articles (e.g [[France, history]]) should be called [[History of France]] or even [[French history]]. The idea is that the keyword should be first in an article such as this, with people searching for [[France]] in a general search will see a list of articles, e.g:
'''Optional next step for proposers.''' This is optional, and you can leave it to the [[Archive:Proposals/Policy#The proposal driver|driver]]. Follow the "complete proposal" link you'll find at the bottom of your new proposal box. On that page, you can elaborate the proposal or issue, link to pre-existing discussions, and generally say whatever you think needs to be said in order to get the proposal adopted (or the issue decided) and implemented. That's generally where to follow the progress of your proposal. ([[Archive:Proposals/Policy|Guidelines are available]].)
*[[France]]
*[[France, history]]
*[[France, politics]]
*[[France, literature]]
etc.  


|Name and date of original proposer = [[User:Denis Cavanagh|Denis Cavanagh]] 11:29, 8 February 2008 (CST)
=New proposals=
<big>Looking for your proposal, which used to be here?  Check the [[CZ:Proposals/All|list of all proposals]].</big>


If a proposal here does not have a "driver," it may be moved to [[CZ:Proposals/Driverless|the driverless proposals queue]] a week after being proposed.
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{{Proposals navigation}}
== Extension:FormatDates ==
{{proposal
|Brief descriptive title = Add the FormatDates extension (http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:FormatDates).
|Summary of proposal = It's very annoying the way some dates on CZ are in UK format (3rd May 2009 or 03/05/2009), some in US format (May 3, 2009 or 05/03/2009), and some in "international" format (2009-05-03). The use of the FormatDates extension (http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:FormatDates) would solve this problem.
|Name and date of original proposer = [[User:Caesar Schinas|Caesar Schinas]] 13:31, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
|Username of driver =  
|Username of driver =  
|Next step =  
|Next step =  
|Target date for next step =  
|Target date for next step =  
 
|Notes =  
|Notes= This has been discussed before but deserves a fuller debate. I don't really have an opinion on the issue despite the history workgroup handily being my most active one.[[User:Denis Cavanagh|Denis Cavanagh]] 11:29, 8 February 2008 (CST)
}}
}}


*I think most people would type in [[History of France]], so that should be the style.  Of course they could also go to [[France]] first, and there would be the required link.  [[User:Ro Thorpe|Ro Thorpe]] 14:24, 9 February 2008 (CST) - And so it is.  As for 'French history', I think most people would not choose it, a bit informal.  [[User:Ro Thorpe|Ro Thorpe]] 14:27, 9 February 2008 (CST)
== Add Java applet support ==
*'''Questions:''' are we limiting this discussion to places, like [[History of France]], or does it also extend to things, like [[History of the kilt]]? If yes, why? Why should we limit this to the history workgroup? Why not make one rule for the whole of Citizendium? Would people actually search for [[Kilt, history]] or [[History of the kilt]]? And why should we limit ourselves to the old-fashioned way of keeping tab of books in a library, where people search for books in little drawers of cards by the first word according to the Dewey Decimal system? Isn't this an internet site? Don't we have redirects? --[[User:Christian Liem|Christian Liem]] 20:42, 9 February 2008 (CST)
{{proposal
:Well, if I wanted a history of the kilt, I'd probably just type in 'kilt' & be happy if there were immediately visible a link to 'history of the kilt', or, for that matter 'kilt, history'. [[User:Ro Thorpe|Ro Thorpe]] 11:55, 10 February 2008 (CST)
|Brief descriptive title = Java applet support
 
|Summary of proposal = Allow to upload and use Java applets in articles
==Improve general heading==
|Name and date of original proposer = Audrius Meskauskas
 
|Username of driver = [[User:Audrius Meskauskas|Audrius Meskauskas]] 11:23, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
{{reformatproposal
|Next step = Implement Wiki language extensions, allowing to embed Java applet into article. Allow to upload .jar files into repository.
|reason= Please use the proposal template. Remove the HTML comment code once this has been completed.
|Target date for next step =  
|editor= --[[User:Robert W King|Robert W King]] 08:35, 10 February 2008 (CST)
|Notes = 
}}
}}


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{{proposal
The general public and experts collaborate, using their real names. A new knowledge society."
|Brief descriptive title = Trending Citizendium Growth
does not seem to be a good example of the kind of writing to be expected here. Is the last sentence a sentence? I propose, but do not know how to accomplish, the head be changed to something like:
|Summary of proposal = Provide an automated tool to graph the gorwth of  
 
|Name and date of original proposer = [[User:Graham Proud|Graham Proud]] 12:40, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
"Join us, and help us create the world's most trusted encyclopedia and knowledge base. Where the general public and experts collaborate, using our real names, creating a new society of knowledge."
|Username of driver = [[User:Graham Proud|Graham Proud]]
[[User:Thomas Mandel|Thomas Mandel]] 02:00, 9 February 2008 (CST)
|Next step = I have no idea how to implement this!
 
|Target date for next step =  
How about either of these two phrases?
|Notes =
* "Join us, both experts and the general public, using our real names, to help create the world's most trusted encyclopedia and a new society of knowledge."
 
or
 
*
"Join our new society of knowledge, consisting of experts and the general public, using our real names, and help create the world's most trusted encyclopedia and knowledge base that if free to world."
 
*[[User:David E. Volk|David E. Volk]] 09:23, 9 February 2008 (CST)
 
Perhaps something like:
# Like current, but with dash instead of period: "Join! Help us create the world's most trusted encyclopedia and knowledge base. The general public and experts collaborate, using their real names - a new knowledge society."
# Eliminate "that if [sic] free to world" from one of David's proposals: "Join our new society of knowledge, consisting of experts and the general public, using our real names, and help create the world's most trusted encyclopedia and knowledge base."
[[User:Warren Schudy|Warren Schudy]] 13:58, 9 February 2008 (CST)
 
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==Make "beta" tag a real tag==
 
{{reformatproposal
|reason= Please use the proposal template.  Remove the HTML comment code when this has been done.
|editor=--[[User:Robert W King|Robert W King]] 08:37, 10 February 2008 (CST)
}}
}}
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THe "beta" tag seems to be lost. By simply adding a chain linking the tag to the what looks like a key, can find it a home.
[[User:Thomas Mandel|Thomas Mandel]] 02:03, 9 February 2008 (CST)
Uh, what's a "tag"? Is it a synonym for "category"? I don't understand your proposal. [[User:Warren Schudy|Warren Schudy]] 13:45, 9 February 2008 (CST)
:He's talking about a prior graphic that was used for the logo. --[[User:Robert W King|Robert W King]] 13:50, 9 February 2008 (CST)
::It's this [[Image:Logo400grbeta_small.png|100px]] is what he's talking about, versus the logo that's in the upper left. --[[User:Robert W King|Robert W King]] 14:02, 9 February 2008 (CST)
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==User feedback==


{{proposal
{{proposal
|statement=Each article should have a link for non-citizens to submit feedback. Feedback can be read and acted upon by any Citizen. To make the feedback system easier to use for both readers and Citizens, feedback can be in the form of a machine-readable proposed edit.
|Brief descriptive title = Enforce One Style for Professional Web Presence
|reasoning=
|Summary of proposal = Enforce 1 skin, 1 set of approved, complimentary colors
# Allow casual good Samaritans to help us improve.
|Name and date of original proposer = [[User:David E. Volk|David E. Volk]] 16:32, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
# Submitting feedback is a low-commitment way for potential Citizens to get their feet wet. If we act on feedback, we can send the submitter an email thanking them for the feedback and encouraging them to sign up as a Citizen.
|Username of driver = [[User:David E. Volk|David E. Volk]] 16:32, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
|prior=
|Next step = Drive to write proposal; awaiting CZ input
# Preliminary proposal and discussion: [[http://forum.citizendium.org/index.php/topic,1399.msg12315.html#msg12315]]
|Target date for next step = Nov. 15, 2009
# An argument for machine readability of feedback: [[http://forum.citizendium.org/index.php/topic,1399.msg12489.html#msg12489]]
|Notes =
# Refined proposal, including an example story of how the process would work: [[http://forum.citizendium.org/index.php/topic,1421.msg12865.html#msg12865]]
# Another discussion: [[http://forum.citizendium.org/index.php/topic,830.0.html]]
|notes=
#I created a [[User:Warren_Schudy/Reader_Feedback | page]] with a more detailed proposal.
#Potential difficulty: probably requires modifying MediaWiki software.
}}[[User:Warren Schudy|Warren Schudy]] 13:34, 9 February 2008 (CST)
 
{{response
|by= --[[User:Denis Cavanagh|Denis Cavanagh]] 14:27, 9 February 2008 (CST)
|text= I think its a good idea as long as its technically feasible.
}}
 
{{response
|by= -- [[User:David E. Volk|David E. Volk]] 08:24, 11 February 2008 (CST)
|text= This could be a source of malicious code.  Saveguards would be needed to parse the text.
}}
 
{{response
|by= --[[User:Paul Wormer|Paul Wormer]] 08:53, 11 February 2008 (CST)
|text= It would be best if outsider's comments came somehow to the notice of the main author(s) of the articles commented on. These authors could read the comments and decide whether or not to include them in the article. I don't foresee in the near future so many comments that this process must necessarily be automatized. If it becomes too much work, we can always start a new discussion on how to parse and edit automatically (including the difficult problem of automatic saveguards).
}}
}}

Latest revision as of 02:01, 8 March 2024

Instructions

To start a new proposal or issue, simply click this edit link - it is recommended that you right-click the link, and select 'open in new window' to open it in a new window, so that you can continue to be able to read the instructions here in the old window. That link will provide an edit window containing a blank copy of the template which needs to be filled out in order to create a new proposal section here. Enter the details in the template, using the instructions below, and press save! That's it — it's very easy.

Here's how to fill it out:

  1. Brief descriptive title. Make this brief, because it will be part of a page title. If you are raising an issue (ask for a decision among two or more options), please word the title as a question. Note: this exact same text goes in the Subject/headline box, too.
  2. Summary of proposal. Limited to 100 words.
  3. Name and date of original proposer: write four tildes ~~~~
  4. Username of driver. If you, write three tildes ~~~; if someone else, specify. This is the person who makes sure the proposal moves along from step to step in its development. If the "driver" is left blank, and no one volunteers to be driver, your proposal may be moved to the "discarded" queue. The driver should get familiar with the proposals system policy page.
  5. Next step. The next thing you need to do to move the proposal toward reality. Not sure what to write? Hints here.
  6. Target date for next step. A date the driver commits to, for completing the next step. If you drop the ball, the proposal may become driverless.
  7. (Optional) Notes. Brief salient remarks. Bear in mind the bulk of the info about the proposal doesn't go here but on the (much bigger) proposal page. A handy link to the proposal page will pop up after you save the template.

Optional next step for proposers. This is optional, and you can leave it to the driver. Follow the "complete proposal" link you'll find at the bottom of your new proposal box. On that page, you can elaborate the proposal or issue, link to pre-existing discussions, and generally say whatever you think needs to be said in order to get the proposal adopted (or the issue decided) and implemented. That's generally where to follow the progress of your proposal. (Guidelines are available.)

New proposals

Looking for your proposal, which used to be here? Check the list of all proposals.

If a proposal here does not have a "driver," it may be moved to the driverless proposals queue a week after being proposed.

Proposals System Navigation (advanced users only)

Proposal lists (some planned pages are still blank):

Extension:FormatDates

Summary: It's very annoying the way some dates on CZ are in UK format (3rd May 2009 or 03/05/2009), some in US format (May 3, 2009 or 05/03/2009), and some in "international" format (2009-05-03). The use of the FormatDates extension (http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:FormatDates) would solve this problem.
Original proposer: Caesar Schinas 13:31, 3 May 2009 (UTC) Next step: Fill in next step
Driver: Driver needed (i.e., someone familiar with the proposals system who will move it through the system) To be done by: Fill in target date for next step
To the proposer: please read the proposals system policy page if you want to fill out a complete proposal, not just this summary. If you don't, please ask around for someone (a "driver") to take over your proposal!
Start complete proposal


Add Java applet support

Summary: Allow to upload and use Java applets in articles
Original proposer: Audrius Meskauskas Next step: Implement Wiki language extensions, allowing to embed Java applet into article. Allow to upload .jar files into repository.
Driver: Audrius Meskauskas 11:23, 30 September 2009 (UTC) To be done by: Fill in target date for next step
Complete proposal


Summary: Provide an automated tool to graph the gorwth of
Original proposer: Graham Proud 12:40, 17 October 2009 (UTC) Next step: I have no idea how to implement this!
Driver: Graham Proud To be done by: Fill in target date for next step
To the proposer: please read the proposals system policy page if you want to fill out a complete proposal, not just this summary. If you don't, please ask around for someone (a "driver") to take over your proposal!
Start complete proposal


Summary: Enforce 1 skin, 1 set of approved, complimentary colors
Original proposer: David E. Volk 16:32, 1 November 2009 (UTC) Next step: Drive to write proposal; awaiting CZ input
Driver: David E. Volk 16:32, 1 November 2009 (UTC) To be done by: Nov. 15, 2009
Complete proposal
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