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I have an extensive collection of them [http://ana-3.lcs.mit.edu/~jnc/humour/smileys.txt here]. BTW, I usually include a "-" (for the nose), as in ":-)". Is that no longer done? [[User:J. Noel Chiappa|J. Noel Chiappa]] 19:18, 20 March 2008 (CDT)
I have an extensive collection of them [http://ana-3.lcs.mit.edu/~jnc/humour/smileys.txt here]. BTW, I usually include a "-" (for the nose), as in ":-)". Is that no longer done? [[User:J. Noel Chiappa|J. Noel Chiappa]] 19:18, 20 March 2008 (CDT)
:I think it's best to include a "variatiation" section then just adding to the list.  --[[User:Robert W King|Robert W King]] 20:06, 20 March 2008 (CDT)
:I think it's best to include a "variatiation" section then just adding to the list.  --[[User:Robert W King|Robert W King]] 20:06, 20 March 2008 (CDT)


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BTW, Joel, I use 'nose' variants as well--it's a bit cutesy of me to admit it here but I like :0) myself.[[User:Louise Valmoria|Louise Valmoria]] 20:16, 20 March 2008 (CDT)
BTW, Joel, I use 'nose' variants as well--it's a bit cutesy of me to admit it here but I like :0) myself.[[User:Louise Valmoria|Louise Valmoria]] 20:16, 20 March 2008 (CDT)
:There's some real history to dig up here, as smileys go back a long way; it's just a matter of finding the sources. --[[User:Robert W King|Robert W King]] 20:18, 20 March 2008 (CDT)
:There's some real history to dig up here, as smileys go back a long way; it's just a matter of finding the sources. --[[User:Robert W King|Robert W King]] 20:18, 20 March 2008 (CDT)


::So far, a quick search seems to term them as 'Japanese' smileys: i.e. [http://club.pep.ne.jp/~hiroette/en/facemarks/index.html here] and [http://www.hostboard.com/js.shtml here]. And it actually makes a bit of sense to me, seeing them termed as Japanese smileys, given as I have often seen them come from anime fans.[[User:Louise Valmoria|Louise Valmoria]] 20:28, 20 March 2008 (CDT)
::So far, a quick search seems to term them as 'Japanese' smileys: i.e. [http://club.pep.ne.jp/~hiroette/en/facemarks/index.html here] and [http://www.hostboard.com/js.shtml here]. And it actually makes a bit of sense to me, seeing them termed as Japanese smileys, given as I have often seen them come from anime fans.[[User:Louise Valmoria|Louise Valmoria]] 20:28, 20 March 2008 (CDT)
::: The upright ones I do think are likely Japanese; I think the sideways ones were pretty engrained in the West, and so left no room for others here. The original sideways ones come from Usenet (which began as, and was basically a US phenomenon), and quite a while back. I have an email from August '83 (which you can see [http://ana-3.lcs.mit.edu/~jnc/humour/smiley.txt here]) which indicates that they had been in existence for a while already at that point (although perhaps only a year or so, I would guess, from the tone, which indicates it's a bit of a new toy at that point). [[User:J. Noel Chiappa|J. Noel Chiappa]] 20:54, 20 March 2008 (CDT)

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More smileys

I have an extensive collection of them here. BTW, I usually include a "-" (for the nose), as in ":-)". Is that no longer done? J. Noel Chiappa 19:18, 20 March 2008 (CDT)

I think it's best to include a "variatiation" section then just adding to the list. --Robert W King 20:06, 20 March 2008 (CDT)

A smiley subculture ...

Unfortunately I can't provide a source for this, only years of message boards amongst different groups, but I had been told that smileys like ^_^ -_- and such originate from, or are more widely used by, anime/manga followers ... I really don't know how to go about credibly verifying this claim, though it is something I observe often.

BTW, Joel, I use 'nose' variants as well--it's a bit cutesy of me to admit it here but I like :0) myself.Louise Valmoria 20:16, 20 March 2008 (CDT)

There's some real history to dig up here, as smileys go back a long way; it's just a matter of finding the sources. --Robert W King 20:18, 20 March 2008 (CDT)
So far, a quick search seems to term them as 'Japanese' smileys: i.e. here and here. And it actually makes a bit of sense to me, seeing them termed as Japanese smileys, given as I have often seen them come from anime fans.Louise Valmoria 20:28, 20 March 2008 (CDT)
The upright ones I do think are likely Japanese; I think the sideways ones were pretty engrained in the West, and so left no room for others here. The original sideways ones come from Usenet (which began as, and was basically a US phenomenon), and quite a while back. I have an email from August '83 (which you can see here) which indicates that they had been in existence for a while already at that point (although perhaps only a year or so, I would guess, from the tone, which indicates it's a bit of a new toy at that point). J. Noel Chiappa 20:54, 20 March 2008 (CDT)