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== When? ==
== When? ==
Write-a-Thons happen the Last Tuesday of every month.  The next Write-a-Thon is '''Tuesday, November 27.'''  November 27 is a long day since we have writers all around the world. It starts on November 26 at 1200 GMT, in New Zealand, and ends on November 28 at 1000 GMT, in Hawaii.  Save The Date!  Put it on your calendar!  Set yourself a reminder!
Write-a-Thons happen the Last Tuesday of every month.  The next Write-a-Thon is '''Tuesday, January 29.'''  January 29 is a long day since we have writers all around the world. It starts on January 28 at 1200 GMT, in New Zealand, and ends on January 30 at 1000 GMT, in Hawaii.  Save The Date!  Put it on your calendar!  Set yourself a reminder!


Any new article you create, and any edit you make to somebody else's Write-a-Thon article, when it's that day in your part of the world, will count.
Any new article you create, and any edit you make to somebody else's Write-a-Thon article, when it's that day in your part of the world, will count.
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== The Partiers ==
== The Partiers ==
*[[user:Aleta_Curry|Aleta]] stumbled to her desk and realised it was the 27th in [[Sydney]], [[New South Wales]] and probably in [[Uganda]].  Let's go team!  Just missed seeing Derek in [[Hong Kong]], thought about catching up with him in [[Antarctica]] but that's sheer madness (no wonder Supten left!).  Visted [[Cheshire]] for the first time in my life, and a drink of African [[beer]] in [[Ghana]] with Regina sounds really good!


*[[User:Derek Harkness|Derek Harkness]] thought he'd keep Aleta company before heading to work (was supposed to be his day off but one teacher is on a training course so he has to cover classes. Sigh...) Kicked off with a stub about [[Hong Kong]]. However, Hong Kong is too warm, so headed down to [[Antarctica]] to meet up with Supten. He went back to china to visit [[Guilin]] and [[Macau]] and added some photographs to them too out of his own collection.
*[[User:Supten Sarbadhikari|Supten]] thought of trying out his hand at a core article on [[Antarctica]] - but could not gather much of resources, so tried to visit [[Sydney]], then decided to ponder upon the [[CZ:Editorial_Council_Resolution_0007/Member_position_statements]] and [http://forum.citizendium.org/index.php/topic,1390.0.html] and finally left the party!
*[[user:Regina_Bouillon|Regina]]: I know that Aleta is in Uganda while I am in [[Ghana]] - let's meet somewhere in between for an African beer with the others. In Europe, I had a short glimpse at [[Snežana]], Slovenia
*[[user:Russ McGinn|Russ]]: Always of good cheer, is today grinning like a [[Cheshire, England|Cheshire]] Cat.
*[[user:Dan Nachbar|Dan Nachbar]] added a [[List of Massachusetts cities and towns|list]] of all 351 cities and towns in Massachusetts and a stub for his own town of [[Amherst, Massachusetts|Amherst]] and added the date of statehood for [[Alaska]].
*[[user:Steven Clark Bennett|Steven]] did some tinkering with his current project, [[Lebanon]], then headed to [[Egypt]] for a change of scene.
*[[User:Eric Winesett|Eric]] visited his home town of [[Chattanooga, Tennessee]], then headed north to take a peek inside [[Alaska|Seward's Icebox]].


==Shy boys==
==Shy boys==
People who started or edited articles but didn't add their names above. They should still get credit for taking part.


[[user:David E. Volk|David E. Volk]] and [[user:Richard Jensen|Richard Jensen]] Joined up with Eddie (below) for a private party in [[Argentina]].


[[user:Hugo Voisard|Hugo Voisard]] created [[Quebec City]].
== Porch sitters--article creators who didn't edit a new article ==
*[[User:Todd Coles|Todd]] started an article about the state he was born in, [[Ohio (U.S. state)|Ohio]], while waiting for others to show up.


[[user:Eddie Ortiz Nieves|Eddie]], aside form his trip to [[Argentina]] (mentioned bellow) also popped into [[Cuba]] where he hoisted a flag.
*He spent too much time working on on the new skin(s) that [[User:Derek Harkness|Derek Harkness]] only had time for one article today. Like Todd, he choose his place of birth - [[Paisley]]. Might have time later before America goes to bed, to do some more. P.S the skins are ready.


In a mirror to Steven's [[Lebanon]], [[user:John Harvey|John Harvey]] visited the [[County of Lebanon]], [[Lebanon, Pennsylvania‎]] and [[City of Lebanon, Pennsylvania]]. That's the USA one as opposed to Steven's Middle Eastern.
== Party crashers--contributors who didn't create a new article ==


== Porch sitters--article creators who didn't edit a new article ==
*Is this today? Ugh. Well, [[User:Joe Quick|Joe]] started a stubby-stub-stub on [[Guatemala]] but he's going to need y'all's help to develop it.
*[[User:Jay Proctor|Jay]] dug himself out of tons of fresh snow on the [[Zugspitze]], but was too tired to add much more.
*[[User:Eddie Ortiz Nieves|Eddie]] dropped by [[Argentina]] and left quickly to visit another country.
* [[User:Alexander Wiebel|Alexander Wiebel]] ... the [[Leipzig]] article is on the way.
*[[User:Denis Cavanagh|Denis]] took a trip to the vast forests of [[Sweden]] for some personal time. He didn't spend long though, only having enough time for a stub :-(


== Party crashers--contributors who didn't create a new article ==
== The total party poops ==
* [[User:Chris Day|Chris Day]] helped Aleta with [[Sydney]].
* [[User:Larry Sanger|Larry Sanger]] went north to [[Alaska]] (I was going to create it but Aleta beat me to the punch) but has yet to discover new territory...
** I'll be in [[Memphis, Tennessee]] for a few days next week...can anyone tell me more than what I know from driving by it (twice) without stopping on my way across the country?  "Home of Elvis and the...ancient Greeks.  What's that I smell?  I smell home cookin'!  No, it's only the river, it's only the river."  Identify the reference and you get a gold star. --[[User:Larry Sanger|Larry Sanger]] 12:10, 27 November 2007 (CST)
***Three words, Larry: barbecue, barbecue, [http://home.midsouth.rr.com/colezoo/Robert/bbq.html barbecue]. —[[User:Eric Winesett|Eric Winesett]] 23:11, 27 November 2007 (CST)
****Barbeque is promised for my visit, so! --[[User:Larry Sanger|Larry Sanger]] 15:58, 28 November 2007 (CST)
***The reference to Memphis being the home of the Greeks bothered me enough to look up [http://www.lyricsdepot.com/talking-heads/cities.html the reference]. --[[User:Joe Quick|Joe Quick]] 00:55, 28 November 2007 (CST)
****Give that man a prize!  Talking Heads! --[[User:Larry Sanger|Larry Sanger]] 15:58, 28 November 2007 (CST)


== The total party poops ==
* Myself, shamelessly.  BTW Larry, Tennessee has EXCELLENT food.  I highly recommend Beale Street for all of your alcoholic consumption activities. --[[User:Robert W King|Robert W King]] 20:29, 27 November 2007 (CST)


== Questions ==
== Questions ==
* Where was [[user:Martin Baldwin-Edwards|Martin]]?  Where was [[User:D. Matt Innis|Matt]]? [[User:Aleta Curry|Aleta Curry]] 15:22, 28 November 2007 (CST)
So I've been mulling over adding things to US state articles such as state mottos, animals, songs, etc. and what would be the best way to go about it.  My first thought was designing a template box to stick on each article.  But the more I've thought about it, this seems like something that might be better suited for a Catalogs subpage called "Symbols and Emblems" or something.  Opinions? --[[User:Todd Coles|Todd Coles]] 21:33, 28 January 2008 (CST)
:Catalogs sounds good for these. [[User:Derek Harkness|Derek Harkness]] 10:18, 29 January 2008 (CST)
 
Why is the circumfrance of the earth 24,901.55 miles or 40,075.16 kilometers. Surly it would have been sensible to choose round numbers for the scale? [[User:Derek Harkness|Derek Harkness]] 10:18, 29 January 2008 (CST)


==The Party's Over...==
==The Party's Over...==
*Awww...is it time to call it a day?  I think the Editor-in-chief should officially declare the inaugural geogra-thon a success.  Clever Derek, to add in the 'Shy Boys'.  We have to remember that for the write-a-thon.  [[User:Aleta Curry|Aleta Curry]] 15:25, 28 November 2007 (CST)
** I hereby declare the Geogra-thon a success!  (That was easy!) --[[User:Larry Sanger|Larry Sanger]] 16:00, 28 November 2007 (CST)


Before its over, do we need a climate subpage for geography articles? Or would that count as a catalog? For countries, vegetation maps population maps, rainfall maps, soil maps etc. would be great.  Would they go in a gallery or their own subpage? [[User:Chris Day|Chris Day]] [[User talk:Chris Day|(talk)]] 16:59, 28 November 2007 (CST)
:We have a 'tables' sub pages don't we? That's where I'd put raw data. Else, on the catalog pages. As for maps, if you know a public domain source of such maps, that would be useful. If we can get good maps for free, then we should have a 'maps' subpage. [[User:Derek Harkness|Derek Harkness]] 07:39, 29 November 2007 (CST)
::The ''Tables''  subpage is now called ''Catalogs'' and I agree the climate related info would be best suited there. Unfortunately, I do not know of a source for maps, but we need them, as a kid they were my favourite part of an atlas.  I'm sure I'm not the only one. [[User:Chris Day|Chris Day]] [[User talk:Chris Day|(talk)]] 10:11, 29 November 2007 (CST)
::: A good place to start looking for maps is here at the [http://www.nationalatlas.gov/ National Atlas].  They have some premade maps, and also have a map viewer for you to create your own maps with a variety of USGS data.  From what I gather, this information is in the public domain[http://www.nationalatlas.gov/policies.html#copyright] and they request you cite them as the source [http://www.nationalatlas.gov/HELP/faq.html#fourteen].  Hope this helps. --[[User:Todd Coles|Todd Coles]] 12:18, 29 November 2007 (CST)
::::Yes this is very useful.  I looked at their FAQ and they had the following question and answer:
:::::'''Q. [http://www.nationalatlas.gov/HELP/faq.html#thirteen14. I've noticed the little registered trademark symbol in "The National Atlas of the United States of America®."  Does this mean that there are restrictions on using National Atlas data and maps?]
:::::'''A.''' ''No, not usually. Nearly all information collected by the Federal Government is in the public domain and use of raw data produced under this project is not restricted in any way. Both "National Atlas of the United States®" and "The National Atlas of the United States of America®" are registered trademarks of the United States Department of the Interior. The USGS has been publishing National Atlas products since 1970 and has simply taken action to trademark this term to incorporate all new graphic and electronic products of The National Atlas of the United States of America®. Although the content of most National Atlas Web pages is in the public domain, some pages may contain material that is copyrighted by others and used by the National Atlas with permission. You may need to obtain permission from the copyright owner for other uses. Furthermore, some non-National Atlas data, products, and information linked, or referred to, from this site may be protected under U.S. and foreign copyright laws. You may need to obtain permission from the copyright owner to acquire, use, reproduce, or distribute these materials.
::::So it looks like it may be possible to generate some useful maps here.  It all depends on how much of the info is in the category of "''some pages may contain material that is copyrighted by others and used by the National Atlas with permission''". [[User:Chris Day|Chris Day]] [[User talk:Chris Day|(talk)]] 13:25, 29 November 2007 (CST)
:: There is a source for maps of Germany with a certain position marked. See [http://opengeodb.hoppe-media.com/examples/location.php?id=20112&q=Leipzig this example] for the position of Leipzig in Germany. These maps are free. The German Wikipedia already uses them. Any comments? -- [[User:Alexander Wiebel|Alexander Wiebel]] 14:44, 29 November 2007 (CST)


== Previous shindigs ==
== Previous shindigs ==
*[[CZ:Geography_Workgroup/Gazetteer/Geogra-thon/November|November's Geogra-thon]]
*[[CZ:Geography_Workgroup/Gazetteer/Geogra-thon/December|December's Geogra-thon]]


== See also ==
== See also ==
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* [[CZ:Weekly Wiki|Weekly Wiki]]
* [[CZ:Weekly Wiki|Weekly Wiki]]
* [[CZ:Article of the Week|Article of the Week]]
* [[CZ:Article of the Week|Article of the Week]]
* [[CZ:New Article of the Week|New Article of the Week]]
* [[Archive:New Draft of the Week|New Article of the Week]]
* [[CZ:Monthly_Write-a-Thon|Monthly Write-a-Thon]]
* [[CZ:Monthly_Write-a-Thon|Monthly Write-a-Thon]]


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== The Partiers ==
== The Partiers ==
==Shy boys==


== Porch sitters--article creators who didn't edit a new article ==
== Porch sitters--article creators who didn't edit a new article ==


== Party crashers--contributors who didn't create a new article ==
== Party crashers--contributors who didn't create a new article ==


== The total party poops ==
== The total party poops ==
== Questions ==
==The Party's Over...==
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== Images from Google Earth and/or MapQuest ==
I have a couple of images captured by SnagIt from Google Earth and Mapquest to illustrate my newly created article about [[Stravenue]]s. Any chance that one of them could be used somehow?  Each of them had a copyright thingee on the bottom of their screens before I grabbed 'em. Steve -- anything you can do?  Email someone for permission if necessary?  Many thanks! [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 13:13, 25 December 2007 (CST)
:Here's some info I got from our competitor's article about Google Earth:
<blockquote> Currently, every image created from Google Earth using satellite data provided by Google Earth is a copyrighted map. Any derivative from Google Earth is made from copyrighted data which, under United States Copyright Law, may not be used except under the licenses Google provides. Google allows non-commercial personal use of the images (e.g. on a personal website or blog) as long as copyrights and attributions are preserved.[31] By contrast, images created with NASA's globe software World Wind use the Blue Marble, Landsat or USGS layer, each of which is a terrain layer in the public domain. Works created by an agency of the United States government are public domain at the moment of creation. This means that those images can be freely modified, re-distributed and used for commercial purposes.</blockquote>
::Well, we're non-commercial, but are we "personal" enough for them? Or should I try to use the World Wind sites to look for the same thing? [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 16:11, 25 December 2007 (CST)
We had a question about exactly this on the Forum. The conclusion after reading the legal position of Google Earth was that we cannot use images from there. We need specific copyright permission. You should try the other source, I think. --[[User:Martin Baldwin-Edwards|Martin Baldwin-Edwards]] 19:32, 25 December 2007 (CST)

Latest revision as of 04:02, 8 March 2024

What's a Geogra-Thon?

It's when a bunch of people getting together on a wiki at a particular time to do a bunch of writing. It's like an online party! It's also like theMonthly Write-a-Thon except for one crusial thing. Well two things actually. First it's not a complete free for all - this day is focused on geography. In particular the Gazetteer articles for countries, towns, cities and regions. Secondly, it's on a different day.

When?

Write-a-Thons happen the Last Tuesday of every month. The next Write-a-Thon is Tuesday, January 29. January 29 is a long day since we have writers all around the world. It starts on January 28 at 1200 GMT, in New Zealand, and ends on January 30 at 1000 GMT, in Hawaii. Save The Date! Put it on your calendar! Set yourself a reminder!

Any new article you create, and any edit you make to somebody else's Write-a-Thon article, when it's that day in your part of the world, will count.

Our first monthly Write-a-Thon took place Wednesday, August 1, 2007 and was considered a roaring good time—so lets make sure the Geogra-thon does just as well.

What are the rules?

Rules? This is a party! There are no rules!

Well, OK, maybe there are a couple rules:

  • We'll have a Write-a-Thon the last Tuesday of every month.
  • To participate, you only have to do two things:
    1. Start a new article within the geography (even just a stub will qualify just try to write a ballanced and well writen stub) please remember to include the CZ:The Article Checklist! and
    2. make a substantive edit (not just a copyedit) to an existing geography article. Then you can list your name here as a partier. Until then, you're just a porch-sitter, party-crasher, or total party poop.

I don't know what to write! Help?

Write about what you know. Start with the biggest geographical region, such as your country of residence. Then do the State or Province you live in. Next try the nearest big city to your home and so on down. Once you have exhaused your current location. Do the same for your place of birth. What about places you visited on holliday. You must remember something about them. You see, you had plenty to contribute after all.

Holliday snaps

It's all fine writing articles but we also need illistrations. Dig out your old photo album, scan in the best of your snaps and put them onto the relevent article. Pop down town and take a pic of the local landmark and put it own your town/cities article.

Create an article, already!

Check it out: Start an article!

Now (this time anyway) easier than ever! Stubs are not only permitted they are encouraged!

The Partiers

Shy boys

Porch sitters--article creators who didn't edit a new article

  • Todd started an article about the state he was born in, Ohio, while waiting for others to show up.
  • He spent too much time working on on the new skin(s) that Derek Harkness only had time for one article today. Like Todd, he choose his place of birth - Paisley. Might have time later before America goes to bed, to do some more. P.S the skins are ready.

Party crashers--contributors who didn't create a new article

The total party poops

Questions

So I've been mulling over adding things to US state articles such as state mottos, animals, songs, etc. and what would be the best way to go about it. My first thought was designing a template box to stick on each article. But the more I've thought about it, this seems like something that might be better suited for a Catalogs subpage called "Symbols and Emblems" or something. Opinions? --Todd Coles 21:33, 28 January 2008 (CST)

Catalogs sounds good for these. Derek Harkness 10:18, 29 January 2008 (CST)

Why is the circumfrance of the earth 24,901.55 miles or 40,075.16 kilometers. Surly it would have been sensible to choose round numbers for the scale? Derek Harkness 10:18, 29 January 2008 (CST)

The Party's Over...

Previous shindigs

See also

Images from Google Earth and/or MapQuest

I have a couple of images captured by SnagIt from Google Earth and Mapquest to illustrate my newly created article about Stravenues. Any chance that one of them could be used somehow? Each of them had a copyright thingee on the bottom of their screens before I grabbed 'em. Steve -- anything you can do? Email someone for permission if necessary? Many thanks! Hayford Peirce 13:13, 25 December 2007 (CST)

Here's some info I got from our competitor's article about Google Earth:

Currently, every image created from Google Earth using satellite data provided by Google Earth is a copyrighted map. Any derivative from Google Earth is made from copyrighted data which, under United States Copyright Law, may not be used except under the licenses Google provides. Google allows non-commercial personal use of the images (e.g. on a personal website or blog) as long as copyrights and attributions are preserved.[31] By contrast, images created with NASA's globe software World Wind use the Blue Marble, Landsat or USGS layer, each of which is a terrain layer in the public domain. Works created by an agency of the United States government are public domain at the moment of creation. This means that those images can be freely modified, re-distributed and used for commercial purposes.

Well, we're non-commercial, but are we "personal" enough for them? Or should I try to use the World Wind sites to look for the same thing? Hayford Peirce 16:11, 25 December 2007 (CST)

We had a question about exactly this on the Forum. The conclusion after reading the legal position of Google Earth was that we cannot use images from there. We need specific copyright permission. You should try the other source, I think. --Martin Baldwin-Edwards 19:32, 25 December 2007 (CST)