TI Talk:Unertan Syndrome

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This article was started by Dr. Uner Tan, who we will take to be Topic Informant for the Unertan Syndrome article, since he was discoverer of the phenomenon. See Policy on Topic Informants. --Larry Sanger 08:29, 27 June 2007 (CDT)


If there are no objections, I can work on cleaning this up for formatting. I just want to get approval, first. --Robert W King 12:55, 27 June 2007 (CDT)

Yes, please!
Some background for those unfamiliar with and skeptical about the phenomenon:
All: I believe that before we move this article to the main article namespace, it is our duty to check the article's sources. I believe we should also interview Uner Tan. Is anyone interested in doing this? --Larry Sanger 13:00, 27 June 2007 (CDT)
The article is still on the main namespace: Unertan Syndrome. James A. Flippin 13:37, 27 June 2007 (CDT)
I referred it to Robert's revision for now. --Matt Innis (Talk) 13:44, 27 June 2007 (CDT)
I've formatted the reference links, so the cleanup is largely done.--Robert W King 14:06, 27 June 2007 (CDT)
I have completed the basic, murderous formatting task. --Robert W King 15:03, 27 June 2007 (CDT)


As I suggested on the article in the namespace, I think this article should be renamed, perhaps to Human quadrupedism, or some other generic term. The only sources providing the name Unertan Syndrome are written by Uner Tan and other scientists (see this paper) are not convinced that the features seen in the families are inherently connected or constitute a unique snydrome. James A. Flippin 13:54, 27 June 2007 (CDT)

I'll take this

I "think" I would be qualified to deal with this. Could the author please contact me? There are a number of physiological and anatomical problems with the article. The evolutionary background need researching (for example there is no substantive evidence we evolve - in the primary sense - from a palmigrade (or planigarade) quadruped). I need to discuss this directly with the authors if thats ok with other editors. Also, parts - which I've touched on in edits - are clearly pastes from a scientific article other than the one noted above (note the "We's" and "Ours"}- I'd appreciate seeing this article. Lee R. Berger 13:13, 10 September 2007 (CDT)

As an update, I have had no contact from Dr. Tan. Lee R. Berger 06:08, 19 September 2007 (CDT)

Lee, you could use this to create the Unertan Syndrome page or use? --Matt Innis (Talk) 08:48, 19 September 2007 (CDT)

Just so you know, Lee, images exist: http://en.citizendium.org/wiki?title=Special:Contributions&target=Uner+Tan  —Stephen Ewen (Talk) 13:02, 19 September 2007 (CDT)
Hi Stephen,
Yes, I am very much aware of the purported syndrome - it has recieved some considerable attention amongst my geneticist colleagues etc. I wrote Dr. Tan a long email which I copied to Larry trying to get HIM to do some basic editing of the text etc. Also, the evolutionary stuff at the end needs work........ What we were hoping for was a collaboration instead of one of us coming in and re-writing. I still have hope! By the way, have you seen Joe's fantastic work on the anthro workgroup page? its getting there! Don't know if others will like it?? Also, could you give me an opinion on the List question on the workgroup page - I would like to move ahead if others agree about overcrowding that page. Lee R. Berger 13:11, 19 September 2007 (CDT)