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Nominations for Management and Editorial Councils

You have been nominated for seats on both the Management and Editorial Councils in the July-August Special Election. The nominator was myself. To accept or decline these nominations, please visit the Nominations page here (for the Management Council seat) and here (for the Editorial Council Editor seat) by midnight UTC on July 27th. You may write an election statement for each if you wish (linked from the Nominations page).

The Management Council seat runs until June 30th, 2014 or June 30th, 2015 (the successful candidate with the fewest votes receiving the shorter term) and the Editorial Council seat expires on December 31st, 2014. In the event that Referendum 1 is passed, all seats will expire on June 30th, 2014. Thanks! John Stephenson 17:02, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

C++ pages

Hi - can you look at this unofficial redlink category and see what to do about those pages. We don't use categories in this way. I'm not sure if the pages should be subpaginated, converted to /Catalogs/ subpages (of C++?), moved somewhere else, or what. Thanks. John Stephenson 14:00, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

Those pages are certainly odd. They seem to be code include files used to make the three .png files of plots. I would just leave them alone for now, lest the changes break something. When we get more editors in future, these could use a revisit.Pat Palmer 09:21, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

You've been nominated as a candidate in the June 2015 election

You've been nominated as a candidate in the June 2015 election. Please visit this page to accept or decline the position. No action will also be treated as declining. If you accept, you may choose to write an election statement - see the election page for further details. Alternatively, contact me via my Talk page or privately via e-mail. Regards, John Stephenson (talk) 13:25, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

I'm still here

Although I've been away for awhile, I'm still around and may be coming back to the project for occasional writing.

Reply

Since you ask, Bhikkhu. That's just Pali for what tends to be translated as monk. Actually, they're, at least in theory, more like friars (e.g. Franciscans) than monks (e.g. Benedictines), but the English Protestants who did the early translations weren't too well up on the differences between types of Catholic religious orders.

If you're interested in reading more of what I've had to say on the Pali Canon, you can follow the links from my user page to Wikinfo and Wikisage, where I've adopted different approaches to fit the nature of those sites. All three are WIP, of course. Peter Jackson (talk) 09:16, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for those links, Peter. Love the Pali Canon catalog. Will explore them!Pat Palmer (talk) 18:21, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

You've been nominated as a candidate in the June 2016 election

You've been nominated as a candidate for the post of Managing Editor in the June 2016 election. Please visit this page to accept or decline. No action will also be treated as declining. If you accept, you may choose to write an election statement - see the election page for further details. Meg Ireland (talk) 15:18, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

You've been nominated as a candidate in the June 2016 election

You've been nominated as a candidate for the Citizendium Council in the June 2016 election. Please visit this page to accept or decline. No action will also be treated as declining. If you accept, you may choose to write an election statement - see the election page for further details. Alternatively, contact me via my Talk page or privately via e-mail. Regards, John Stephenson (talk) 19:14, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

Shutting down CZ? Please look at the following discussion and give us your inpu

http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Forum_Talk:Technical_Issues#Any_further_thoughts.3F thanks! Hayford, Treasurer Hayford Peirce (talk) 16:10, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

Schmitz

Hi Pat,

Great minds! I was just about to ask YOU if you approved of all my niggling little edits. Glad that you do! This, actually, is how CZ and WP IDEALLY should work, at least from MY point of view. Someone like you (or me, for that matter) starts putting in a LOT of basic material that maybe is jumbled and disorgangized and without precise sources and then someone else(s) comes along and dots the Is and crosses the Ts. I'm certainly happy to do so in the present case! Hayford Peirce (talk) 16:45, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

Templates for acknowledging contributors

I've unearthed a couple of old templates here and here that could be used for acknowledging article authors in the future. John Stephenson (talk) 17:57, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

Interesting, and yes maybe. Pat Palmer (talk) 18:05, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

Data visualisation / visualization

Hi Pat

Thanks for your comments. I'll leave the spelling of visualis/zation up to you. I'm British so have my habits, no doubt those in the US have theirs :-)

I didn't apply any links or citations at this stage as I was unsure if you believed the article was ready for that yet.

Thanks! Andrew Watson (talk) 06:00, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi Pat

I've only just seen the message you left about images - all emails from this site (and quite a few others) were put into my spam folder. Agreed, images would help and I don't know how to add them. Is there a guide on how to do this?

Andrew Watson (talk) 16:00, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Pali Text Society

Initial draft of article now complete, though I may well think of changes later. Peter Jackson (talk) 09:44, 19 September 2020 (UTC)

Paris TN

Dear Pat. I respectfully suggest that you perhaps have a "conflict of interest" regarding slavery / confederate statues connected with slavery in this town. Pradyumna Singh (talk) 18:09, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Signed Articles

I'm sure you've figured out by now that there is no official / approved policy on signed articles which gives anyone special priviliges to capture topics for themselves. So what say we edit collaboratively and mutually respect our respective editorial skills, inputs and feedback ? Pradyumna Singh (talk) 03:25, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

I'm a bit rusty...

I'm a bit rusty...

and I am having trouble uploading properly licensed images taken by other people.

The upload page tells me I have to select a license, but the field for doing so is blank.

I tried putting an explicit {{CC-BY-3.0}} in the notes section, in case the upload page was clever enough to scan the pages for permissible licenses. Okay, that was grasping at straws. It didn't work.

I considered initially uploading it as PD, and then trying to manually correct it later.

What do you recommend?

Can I circumvent havin to go through the upload page? Do you recommend just filling out the template? I can do that.

Cheers! George Swan (talk) 16:44, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

• Oops. Pilot error. I seem to have clicked on "open access journals" , not from WMF. I think I would still like the option of just filling in a template though. Cheers! George Swan (talk) 16:50, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

• Do definitions include wikilinks? Thanks! George Swan (talk) 17:50, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

They can do. I tend to use them, but a little more sparsely than in a main article. John Stephenson (talk) 15:40, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

• Thanks! George Swan (talk) 03:09, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Help with footnoting

My apologies if you're not the one to ask about this topic. If that's the case, perhaps you could point me in the right direction. I added an article this afternoon, but I have been searching in vain for how to add footnotes to it. Where could I get assistance for doing so? Thanks you! Scott Thompson (talk)

Adding photos

We do have a photograph of The Mother Church that can be added to the Christian Science article. Thanks for any pointers you can provide on that process. Scott Thompson (talk) 22:17, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

Part of Pable Picasso's famous 1905-06 portrait of Gertrude Stein.

There is an Upload file link in the menus on the lower right. When you upload the image file, the wiki will ask you questions about permissions, such as whether the image can be reused by anyone else, with or without attribution. Fill out everything you can, and then at the end after you've saved the page with the image on it, it will show you the code which needs to be added to the article to display the image, something like this: {{Image|Gertrude stein-1.jpg|right|150px|Part of Pable Picasso's famous 1905-06 portrait of Gertrude Stein.}}, which would display as shown on this comment. The parts are: {{filename.ext | placement (left,middle or right) | pixel width of thumbnail | caption}}. Whatever you do, don't lose the link to the image before you get it placed on the article; it can be difficult finding those later. Pat Palmer (talk) 23:23, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

Wakefield article

Thanks for the welcome and the assistance. This is my first attempt at an article so any help or advice is appreciated. I actually have a number of pictures, some of my dad and his shipmates, some of the ship and some of the ports they visited. I will see if I can figure out how to move the part about my dad down to a "Talk" section as that sounds like a good idea. I want to do another article on an interactive TV project I was involved in 1994-1998 in Orlando Fl. I think it would fit in the computer section of Citizendium. I tried to get it on Wikipedia but kept getting it rejected because of various reasons. There is an article there on the Full Service Network but it is about a different company but does include a section on the FSN I was involved with. I digress. Sorry for being so wordy. Thanks again for the assistance.

I tried to add the first part of the article to a talk section but now can't seem to get back to the original article to take that section out so it isn't in 2 places?

I think I figured out how to delete the first paragraph but did I add the talk section correctly?

I will start checking out the public dominion pictures and compare them to what I have and try to determine which ones to add. Thanks again. User:Warren William Mahan Mar 28, 2021

CZ: ad blurb

Pat, I just read this little bit on your Sandbox (and removed a word that looked to be left over from a previous sentence). It's a nice, sincere, gentle, welcoming statement. Good work! Roger A. Lohmann (talk) 11:48, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

Talk:Gaius Iulius Caesar (name)/Draft

For some reason the system won't let me edit that page. (Maybe all Draft talk pages?)

That's an error which I'll fix. John Stephenson (talk) 13:26, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

Someone seems to have mixed up different things. Czar/tsar and Kaiser are derived from Caesar, but that didn't originally mean ruler or anything like that. It meant something like hairy. Chess comes from Persian Shah, king. Peter Jackson (talk) 10:15, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

WikiIndex

You might want to have a look into updating [1]. Peter Jackson (talk) 11:37, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

your assistance please...

I saw you have been active recently, maybe you can help me.

I ported a few articles yesterday. I was a bit rusty, but the special skills for Citizendium are coming back for me.

I first signed up over a decade ago. I spoke to my young neighbour about encouraging him to sign up, build some good skills...

But when I checked out the signup page, to see what has changed, it seems to be out of service. Do you know what that means? It doesn't mean the Citizendium is closed to new contributors, does it?

Cheers! George Swan (talk) 15:01, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Intel 4004

Let me know where I should ask questions like this.

I worked on the Intel 4004 stub article, in 2012. I looked at it again, and saw one of the two references I provided, in 2012, had gone 404. So had webcitation.org, the cite where I thought I could mirror those references.

Luckily archive.org had archived versions, as well. However, the {{cite web}} template does not seem to have field to force the link to the archive to show, instead of linking to the original 404 location. Am I doing something wrong?

And, can you tell me where I should ask questions like this?

Cheers! George Swan (talk) 18:54, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Deferring to the big cheese

Back when I was active here, a dozen years ago, I remember one contributor discussing with Larry his option to follow the Nelson Mandela / George Washington model of leadership... He explained, and I think he agreed, that Jimbo Wales generally did not follow this model. Both Washington and Mandela had fans, often who had worked closely with them, who first praised them, and then encouraged these two first Presidents to forget about all this democracy nonsense, and re-elections. They told Washington and Mandela that the only way to really make sure their vision came to fruition was to hold on to power, and declare themselves "President for Life".

Since reading that discussion I saw many instances where I thought Mr Wales was holding on to too much power. Discussions where he voiced an opinion stopped being about the original substantive issue, but instead polarized between whether one supported Mr Wales.

Larry, my hats off to him, saw the wisdom of the Mandela / Washington model.

Nevertheless, you took on the official leadership cap here. Thank you very much! And, I think I need to tell you I will do my best to defer to suggestions from you.

I don't know you, but so far you seem to be a very tactful considerate leader. So, thank you for that!

I am sure you remember Howard Berkowitz. He was extremely critical of many things about my contributions here, including, he didn't like me choosing to write about topics that he considered of relatively low importance, just because they were things that interested me, until after the topics he considered of higher importance had been written.

Right now I have been porting articles from the wikipedia because I am concerned my bad faith challengers will try to delete articles just because I wrote them. which means, of course, I have ported a lot of articles that are way down the hierarchy.

Pat, I don't want you to notice this, get concerned about it, yet feel uneasy about raising that concern with me.

If you think it would be better to have additional people weigh in, in one of the fora, feel free to say so.

I guess I am repeating, a third time, my thanks for you taking a leadership role...

Cheers! George Swan (talk) 23:44, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

New Server Feedback

Pat, Received the memo on the trial of the new server and the separate second mailing. Log-in worked well with no problems. Everything else seems as it should be. Roger A. Lohmann (talk) 07:38, 17 March 2022 (CDT)