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== Let me ''try'' to explain... ==
There's a principle I've always felt rather strongly about...I'm not sure it's in [[CZ:Naming Conventions]] but it should be if not.  It's that, if there is a word that has a common English meaning, but it is, in the common English meaning, not really a proper title for an article, ''and'' if somebody wants to write an article about some relatively specialized topic that goes by the same word, then the latter article should receive a disambiguated title, even if it is the only article that uses the title.  "Try" in the Rugby sense is a perfect example.  Here's another principle: if I am familiar with some common (or even uncommon) meanings of some titles, then the titles alone should allow me to distinguish the topics of the articles without even clicking on the article.  With "Try," when I saw it on Recent Changes, I was very intrigued: was it going to be about trying, effort, or some such thing?  I had to click through to the article to tell.  I didn't know: maybe somebody had something to say about trying and started the article under the unusual title "Try" instead of, say, "Effort."
This is all by way of ''try''ing to explain why I think this article should live at [[Try (rugby)]] or some such, even if it is the only article titled "Try." --[[User:Larry Sanger|Larry Sanger]] 18:46, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

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 Definition the main way of scoring points in rugby union; to score a try, the ball must be touched down over the opposing team’s touchline. [d] [e]
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Let me try to explain...

There's a principle I've always felt rather strongly about...I'm not sure it's in CZ:Naming Conventions but it should be if not. It's that, if there is a word that has a common English meaning, but it is, in the common English meaning, not really a proper title for an article, and if somebody wants to write an article about some relatively specialized topic that goes by the same word, then the latter article should receive a disambiguated title, even if it is the only article that uses the title. "Try" in the Rugby sense is a perfect example. Here's another principle: if I am familiar with some common (or even uncommon) meanings of some titles, then the titles alone should allow me to distinguish the topics of the articles without even clicking on the article. With "Try," when I saw it on Recent Changes, I was very intrigued: was it going to be about trying, effort, or some such thing? I had to click through to the article to tell. I didn't know: maybe somebody had something to say about trying and started the article under the unusual title "Try" instead of, say, "Effort."

This is all by way of trying to explain why I think this article should live at Try (rugby) or some such, even if it is the only article titled "Try." --Larry Sanger 18:46, 12 January 2009 (UTC)