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: Howard, I did not ask for a speedydelete of the page or any content. I '''moved''' the page to a talk page archive of [[Tea Party Movement]] from where the merging of content can be done and only asked for deletion of those pages (redirects and empty pages) that therefore are no longer needed. --[[User:Peter Schmitt|Peter Schmitt]] 18:31, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
: Howard, I did not ask for a speedydelete of the page or any content. I '''moved''' the page to a talk page archive of [[Tea Party Movement]] from where the merging of content can be done and only asked for deletion of those pages (redirects and empty pages) that therefore are no longer needed. --[[User:Peter Schmitt|Peter Schmitt]] 18:31, 1 October 2010 (UTC)


#REDIRECT [[Talk:Tea Party Movement/Archive 2]]
::Speaking as a Politics Editor who was actively working with the primary Author, I believe your moves, without consensus and/or Politics Editor, were inappropriate. Yes, the articles may indeed be merged -- but that decision had not been reached. Other Politics Editors and the Constabulary have been notified.
 
::It is no more appropriate to make massive moves than massive deletes, unless they are being done under CZ controls. While it's entirely possible I will rule that the articles must merge, even then, I'd subject the procedure to the checks and balances of the Constabulary. In this case, my discussion with the author is temporarily disrupted until I find all the text, and I really don't want to play forensic detective at the moment.
 
::While I have had many disagreements with the author, this wasn't fair to her. Even if this article was in a Workgroup where you are an Editor, I still recommend working with the Constables before making such significant changes. Peter, I speak from experience, where other Citizens were incensed by unilateral moves, renaming articles (not the case here), etc. Let the process work.
 
::I have put Peter's redirect into nowikis, so I can be sure the discussion above is seen. <nowiki>#REDIRECT [[Talk:Tea Party Movement/Archive 2]]</nowiki> [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 18:43, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

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As a Politics Editor who was actively working with the Author, I removed the Speedydelete by a Citizen who is not an editor in the relevant workgroup. While I do believe this article has no justification separate from the preexisting Tea Party Movement article, let the Editor(s) resolve it.

Howard, I did not ask for a speedydelete of the page or any content. I moved the page to a talk page archive of Tea Party Movement from where the merging of content can be done and only asked for deletion of those pages (redirects and empty pages) that therefore are no longer needed. --Peter Schmitt 18:31, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
Speaking as a Politics Editor who was actively working with the primary Author, I believe your moves, without consensus and/or Politics Editor, were inappropriate. Yes, the articles may indeed be merged -- but that decision had not been reached. Other Politics Editors and the Constabulary have been notified.
It is no more appropriate to make massive moves than massive deletes, unless they are being done under CZ controls. While it's entirely possible I will rule that the articles must merge, even then, I'd subject the procedure to the checks and balances of the Constabulary. In this case, my discussion with the author is temporarily disrupted until I find all the text, and I really don't want to play forensic detective at the moment.
While I have had many disagreements with the author, this wasn't fair to her. Even if this article was in a Workgroup where you are an Editor, I still recommend working with the Constables before making such significant changes. Peter, I speak from experience, where other Citizens were incensed by unilateral moves, renaming articles (not the case here), etc. Let the process work.
I have put Peter's redirect into nowikis, so I can be sure the discussion above is seen. #REDIRECT [[Talk:Tea Party Movement/Archive 2]] Howard C. Berkowitz 18:43, 1 October 2010 (UTC)