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== Couple comments ==


Evandro, thanks for keeping up your work here.  Just a few friendly comments...


(HOW THOSE virtues contribute to Divine Filiation and Unity of life?)
Shouldn't this be at [[Opus Dei's spirituality]]? See [[CZ:Naming Conventions]] re capitalization.


: yes. I'll check naming conventions. BTW, Tom Morris suggested other names which are better than the original one. --[[User:Evandro Bacarin|Evandro Bacarin]] 16:28, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
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''How beautiful is our Catholic faith! It provides a solution for all our anxieties, calms our minds and fills our hearts with hope.'' (The Way, 582)


Also, this needs wikilinks, e.g., a link back to [[Opus Dei]]...and many more.  See [[CZ:Article_Mechanics_Complete#Link_copiously.2C_but_relevantly|this]] for some notes about linking.


God is the same as always. It is men of faith that are needed: and then, there will be a renewal of the wonders we read of in the Gospel.


Ecce non est abbreviata manus Domini, God's arm, his power, has not grown weaker!
Finally, others may disagree and I don't strongly insist on this as Editor-in-Chief, but putting in outlines into an article tends to scare potential collaborators off from joining in.  My reasoning is, what if they'd like to write about the subject, but not according to the strict plan the first author happens to have worked out? --[[User:Larry Sanger|Larry Sanger]] 13:46, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
(The Way, 586)


Hope is the theological virtue by which we desire the kingdom of heaven and eternal life as our happiness, placing our trust in Christ's promises and relying not on our own strength, but on the help of the grace of the Holy Spirit (Catechism, 1817). This virtue helps Opus Dei's members to keep their serenity and confidence in God even in hard situations, for they believe that whatever would happen would be allowed by God to increase their love, freedom and happiness. God is a loving Father that would not allow anything that would not contribute to the eternal happiness of His sons.
: I thought it would encourage people to contribute, but, as you said, might be the opposite. --[[User:Evandro Bacarin|Evandro Bacarin]] 16:28, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
(cite St. Paul - Omnia in Bonum)


Detachment is the way OD's members live hope. Insert examples of detachment, concerning money, time, self-image
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:Open Dei? Is that a typo? I'm assuming you are questioning the capitalised "s" and a move to [[Opus Dei's spirituality]]? [[User:Chris Day|Chris Day]] 13:53, 24 January 2009 (UTC)


::Oops, yes, fixed now above. --[[User:Larry Sanger|Larry Sanger]] 13:55, 24 January 2009 (UTC)


(The same for hope)
:I'm not sure we need a separate article, but if we do, I think "Opus Dei's Spirituality" is a bad name - [[Spirituality of Opus Dei]] or [[Spiritual tradition of Opus Dei]] would be better. The possessive-contractive form used for the article name seems strange. I've cleaned up the article as per Larry's suggestion to remove the outline. I think that it's probably not a bad idea to put outlines of planned sections in a non-comment section at the top of the talk page. Perhaps we should have a 'scratchpad' area, a bit like a piece of scrap paper that one is given to write notes on during an examination. --[[User:Tom Morris|Tom Morris]] 13:23, 5 February 2009 (UTC)


Charity is the theological virtue by which we love God above all things for his own sake, and our neighbor as ourselves for the love of God. (Catechism, 1822)
::I created a separated article because the main article was copied from wikipedia.  
 
::Both names are better than the original one. Feel free to change it.  --[[User:Evandro Bacarin|Evandro Bacarin]] 16:28, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
An Opus Dei member believes that God has created any human being out of love. Thus, the only answer a man or a woman to God would be also love. (- St. John - God loved us first)(cite The way, love by love)
 
- how a OD member love God: small things, norms, contrition
- how a OD member loves other human beings: struggle against selfishness, acts of service, apostolate
- hierarchy of love: God, others, me
 
''Let your heart overflow in effusions of Love and gratitude as you consider how God's grace each day saves you from the snares that the enemy has set in your path.'' (The Way, 434)
 
'' 'Timor Domini sanctus. The fear of God is holy.' Fear which is the veneration of a son for his Father; never a servile fear, for your Father-God is not a tyrant.'' (The Way, 435)
 
When you have finished your work, do your brother's, helping him, for Christ's sake, so tactfully and so naturally that no one — not even he — will realise that you are doing more than what in justice you ought. (The Way, 440)
 
Don't make negative criticism: if you can't praise, say nothing.  (The Way, 443)
 
This, indeed, is virtue befitting a son of God!
 
(What are the theological virtues? how a Opus Dei member is invited to live the theological virtues?
Is is different from other people? )
(Catechism: http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P66.HTM)
 
SEC2 Cardinal Virtues
 
SEC2 Evangelical counsels
 
(What are the evangelical counsels? how is a OD member invited to live the counsels? Is is similar to
people of consecrated life? How?)
(The Code of Canon Law, canons 599-601)

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Couple comments

Evandro, thanks for keeping up your work here. Just a few friendly comments...

Shouldn't this be at Opus Dei's spirituality? See CZ:Naming Conventions re capitalization.

yes. I'll check naming conventions. BTW, Tom Morris suggested other names which are better than the original one. --Evandro Bacarin 16:28, 7 February 2009 (UTC)


Also, this needs wikilinks, e.g., a link back to Opus Dei...and many more. See this for some notes about linking.


Finally, others may disagree and I don't strongly insist on this as Editor-in-Chief, but putting in outlines into an article tends to scare potential collaborators off from joining in. My reasoning is, what if they'd like to write about the subject, but not according to the strict plan the first author happens to have worked out? --Larry Sanger 13:46, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

I thought it would encourage people to contribute, but, as you said, might be the opposite. --Evandro Bacarin 16:28, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
Open Dei? Is that a typo? I'm assuming you are questioning the capitalised "s" and a move to Opus Dei's spirituality? Chris Day 13:53, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
Oops, yes, fixed now above. --Larry Sanger 13:55, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
I'm not sure we need a separate article, but if we do, I think "Opus Dei's Spirituality" is a bad name - Spirituality of Opus Dei or Spiritual tradition of Opus Dei would be better. The possessive-contractive form used for the article name seems strange. I've cleaned up the article as per Larry's suggestion to remove the outline. I think that it's probably not a bad idea to put outlines of planned sections in a non-comment section at the top of the talk page. Perhaps we should have a 'scratchpad' area, a bit like a piece of scrap paper that one is given to write notes on during an examination. --Tom Morris 13:23, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
I created a separated article because the main article was copied from wikipedia.
Both names are better than the original one. Feel free to change it. --Evandro Bacarin 16:28, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
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