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== Homeopathy reapproval ==
== [[Randomized controlled trial]] ==


Hi, Joe, could you take a look at the last comment section at [[Talk:Homeopathy/Draft]] and tell us what you think needs to be done. Ie, how many Editors do we need, and who can they be? As far as Constable approval, I've been working on the draft, so I'm out. Matt *hasn't* worked on the draft, but was, I believe, an Editor for the *Approved* version. I'm sure that there are other technical aspects also to be considered. Thanks! [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 16:45, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
From my talk page: I dropped the ball!  So glad you are here :)  We need a date in the metadata and there is an issue on the talk page. [http://en.citizendium.org/wiki?title=User_talk%3ARobert_Badgett&action=historysubmit&diff=100780572&oldid=100779195 see Robert's talk page]].


== refusal of an approved article to go away from "to approve" list ==
:I certified approval of version dated 04:39 26 January 2012. This is a re-approval of a previously approved version.  [[User:Anthony.Sebastian|Anthony.Sebastian]] 13:04, 20 February 2012 (UTC)


Hi Joe,
==Priorities in Economics, Politics and History==
I should be inclined to give first priorities to articles that serve as portals to others. At the basic level they would, of course,  be [[Economics]], [[Politics]] and [[History]]. Equally important are some higher-level portals such as [[Financial system]], [[Great Recession]], [[Fiscal policy]] and [[Europe]].  If topicality is considered important, you might consider [[Eurozone crisis]] and [[Arab Spring]]. [[User:Nick Gardner|Nick Gardner]] 14:57, 16 August 2011 (UTC)


http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Randomized_controlled_trial/draft persists in showing on the To Approve List that the Kops look at. I tried putting a null into it and saving, but that didn't change anythingIs there something in the metadata that is screwing up its disappearance? [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 22:34, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
:That certainly makes sense to me. I'll have a look myself, but do you think any of those top-level articles are ready or nearly ready for approval?  The articles on current issues might be hard, since they will presumably continue to be updated as things unfoldSince approved articles preempt drafts as the first thing visitors see, such articles would need to be frequently re-approved. -- Joe Quick ([[User:Approval_Manager|Approval Manager]])  15:10, 16 August 2011 (UTC)


:You know, I tried to fix that.  It's happened before and gave me trouble then too, but I can't remember what I did. I'll look again, I guess. --([[User:Approvals Manager|Approvals Manager]] 15:01, 17 May 2009 (UTC))
== Approval 'Applied Consciousness Sciences' article ==


::Got it!  It was the difference between "Draft" and "draft" --Joe ([[User:Approvals Manager|Approvals Manager]] 17:04, 17 May 2009 (UTC))
Hi, I'd like to request for the approval of the 'Applied Consciousness Sciences' article. This way I know what needs to be corrected. --[[Carlo]]


:::Okie, I understand that the article itself is called "Draft", with a capital D, but just where did you make the fix, so I can do it myself if necessary? Thanks! [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 17:09, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
== Various computing articles ==


::::Article categories, including the toapprove category, are placed on the article talk page by the subpages template. THey don't update until the talk page is edited.  Usually, it only takes a minor edit to the talk page to get rid of the toapprove category after approval.  I tried that but it didn't work until I figured out that I had to edit ".../draft" with a lowercase 'd'. --[[User:Approvals Manager|Approvals Manager]] 02:22, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
There are a number listed on the "ready for approval" page, at least one old enough to have been added by Howard. Most I cannot approve because they are my writing. For the Howard one, I've commented on the talk page.


:::::Okie, with '''that''' knowledge, I guess I'll just let '''you''' worry about this in the future, hehe.... [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 02:43, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
Two I'd particularly like to see move along are [[Block cipher]] and Cypherpunk. Both are mainly my writing, both were previously approved, but both have had a fair bit of change since. Cypherpunk is irritating; WP imported most of our article [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Citizendium_Porting#Articles] but both have changed since then and their current version is noticably better than our approved version. [[User:Sandy Harris|Sandy Harris]] 01:39, 21 February 2012 (UTC)


== Another issue -- please see the new Forum topic ==
:Sandy, I will look into that, and get back to you for thoughts you may have on how to facilitate moving the process along for specific articles.  [[User:Anthony.Sebastian|Anthony.Sebastian]] 01:59, 21 February 2012 (UTC)


Bibliographies in Approved articles apparently aren't protected!
You asked on my talk page which articles might be ready, and who could approve. [[Block cipher]] is one; Peter Schmitt was an approving editor for version 1. I think Pat Palmer is the only active computers editor other than me.


See: http://forum.citizendium.org/index.php/topic,2675.0.html [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 23:06, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
That is a large article. It might be quick & simple to approve some shorter ones such [[Alice and Bob]], [[Rot 13]] or [[Caesar cipher]]. The most interesting short one is Cryptology. On Wikipedia, that is just a redirect to cryptography. Here. there was a lot of discussion, see the talk page. I think it is fine as it is. [[User:Sandy Harris|Sandy Harris]] 02:12, 18 April 2012 (UTC)


Good timing!  I've been wanting to address that.  I replied in the forum thread. --Joe ([[User:Approvals Manager|Approvals Manager]] 14:00, 17 May 2009 (UTC))
== Portal articles ==


== Null edits ==
May I draw your attention again to the portal articles [[Politics]] and [[Economics]] ?  Both are well-developed with large numbers of wikilinks.  You might also consider [[Europe]] on the same grounds. I should be willing to introduce any changes that are deemed necessary. [[User:Nick Gardner|Nick Gardner]] 10:42, 16 April 2012 (UTC)


You don't have to [http://en.citizendium.org/wiki?title=Talk:Free_statistical_software&curid=100102395&diff=100493022&oldid=100491530 do this], you know, you can just click edit and then click save. It won't show anything in the history, but will update all relevant categories, lists of links, etc. It's called a null edit.<br />
:Thanks, Nick, will do.
sorry if you know this, and I'm misunderstanding what you were doing.<br />
[[User:Caesar Schinas|Caesar Schinas]] 13:43, 25 May 2009 (UTC)


:Recently, null edits have had the effect of deleting a lot of text.  There was a discussion about this on someone's talk page, though I don't remember where.  It doesn't always happen, but it's annoying when it does, so I've gotten into the habit of simply adding a space somewhere.  Thanks for your note though, it's good to have someone around who understands the technical stuff. Joe ([[User:Approvals Manager|Approvals Manager]]) 14:15, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
:For each of those three articles, will you give me a list names of users that I can ask for comments on the article, including an Editor or two among the article's workgroup categories.


::Funny, I haven't seen that, but I'll be more careful in future.
:Thanks. &nbsp;&mdash;[[User:Anthony.Sebastian|Anthony.Sebastian]] 16:10, 17 April 2012 (UTC), Approval Manager
::Sorry if I seemed to be teaching my grandmother to suck eggs...
 
::[[User:Caesar Schinas|Caesar Schinas]] 15:13, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
::The only two names that come to mind are Roger Lohman and Russell Jones. As politics and history editor, Roger is well qualified to asssess both [[Politics]] and [[Europe]] - and Russell might be persuaded to add his comments. On the face of it [[Economics]] presents a difficulty because - as far  as I know - I am the only available member of the economics workgroup. However, an assessment of [[Economics]] requires no knowledge  of economics because it is no more than a portal. And, although Russell does  not claim to be an economist, I note that it says in his talk page that economics was a component of his PhD thesis. So  the two of them  together might  provide assessments of all three articles.&nbsp; [[User:Nick Gardner|Nick Gardner]] 09:19, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

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Randomized controlled trial

From my talk page: I dropped the ball! So glad you are here :) We need a date in the metadata and there is an issue on the talk page. see Robert's talk page].

I certified approval of version dated 04:39 26 January 2012. This is a re-approval of a previously approved version. Anthony.Sebastian 13:04, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Priorities in Economics, Politics and History

I should be inclined to give first priorities to articles that serve as portals to others. At the basic level they would, of course, be Economics, Politics and History. Equally important are some higher-level portals such as Financial system, Great Recession, Fiscal policy and Europe. If topicality is considered important, you might consider Eurozone crisis and Arab Spring. Nick Gardner 14:57, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

That certainly makes sense to me. I'll have a look myself, but do you think any of those top-level articles are ready or nearly ready for approval? The articles on current issues might be hard, since they will presumably continue to be updated as things unfold. Since approved articles preempt drafts as the first thing visitors see, such articles would need to be frequently re-approved. -- Joe Quick (Approval Manager) 15:10, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Approval 'Applied Consciousness Sciences' article

Hi, I'd like to request for the approval of the 'Applied Consciousness Sciences' article. This way I know what needs to be corrected. --Carlo

Various computing articles

There are a number listed on the "ready for approval" page, at least one old enough to have been added by Howard. Most I cannot approve because they are my writing. For the Howard one, I've commented on the talk page.

Two I'd particularly like to see move along are Block cipher and Cypherpunk. Both are mainly my writing, both were previously approved, but both have had a fair bit of change since. Cypherpunk is irritating; WP imported most of our article [1] but both have changed since then and their current version is noticably better than our approved version. Sandy Harris 01:39, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Sandy, I will look into that, and get back to you for thoughts you may have on how to facilitate moving the process along for specific articles. Anthony.Sebastian 01:59, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

You asked on my talk page which articles might be ready, and who could approve. Block cipher is one; Peter Schmitt was an approving editor for version 1. I think Pat Palmer is the only active computers editor other than me.

That is a large article. It might be quick & simple to approve some shorter ones such Alice and Bob, Rot 13 or Caesar cipher. The most interesting short one is Cryptology. On Wikipedia, that is just a redirect to cryptography. Here. there was a lot of discussion, see the talk page. I think it is fine as it is. Sandy Harris 02:12, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Portal articles

May I draw your attention again to the portal articles Politics and Economics ? Both are well-developed with large numbers of wikilinks. You might also consider Europe on the same grounds. I should be willing to introduce any changes that are deemed necessary. Nick Gardner 10:42, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, Nick, will do.
For each of those three articles, will you give me a list names of users that I can ask for comments on the article, including an Editor or two among the article's workgroup categories.
Thanks.  —Anthony.Sebastian 16:10, 17 April 2012 (UTC), Approval Manager
The only two names that come to mind are Roger Lohman and Russell Jones. As politics and history editor, Roger is well qualified to asssess both Politics and Europe - and Russell might be persuaded to add his comments. On the face of it Economics presents a difficulty because - as far as I know - I am the only available member of the economics workgroup. However, an assessment of Economics requires no knowledge of economics because it is no more than a portal. And, although Russell does not claim to be an economist, I note that it says in his talk page that economics was a component of his PhD thesis. So the two of them together might provide assessments of all three articles.  Nick Gardner 09:19, 18 April 2012 (UTC)