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Clause 2 needs a qualifier. If editors are empowered to "assure" the site's "reliability" and "quality" at all times, then editors are empowered to swoop down on any unsuspecting writer at any time and badger them about "inaccurate" and "unreliable" content. Writing is a process of figuring out knowledge, working out what's right and what's not. Let the authors author. Editors should be responsible for the reliability and quality of only the APPROVED CONTENT. If it's not approved by our experts, then it's just as good as WP. I propose the following: Jones 20:48, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

2. in assuring that the site's approved content is reliable and meets high quality standards.

• I'll agree to that. D. Matt Innis 21:00, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

• I suggest "quality-reviewed content", or some equivalent. We have, I think, Developing and Developed for good reason. If Editors only become involved in Approval, we limit too much. Howard C. Berkowitz 21:57, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Expert's are also expected to guide content toward reliability and quality. That should be in here somewhere, too. -Joe Quick 00:37, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Make your suggestion and I'll vote. D. Matt Innis 00:42, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

What about

2. in assuring that the site's approved content is reliable and meets high quality standards.

3. in guiding content development towards approval and reapproval.

or simply

2. in guiding content development towards reliability and quality.

instead of the two above?

--Daniel Mietchen 23:01, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Also, there is overlap with article 7. --Daniel Mietchen 23:12, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

(undent) #2 alone deals nicely with avoiding making Approved the only place where there can be oversight. Howard C. Berkowitz 23:15, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

If Article 7 retains a point about approval and high quality, we can drop it from here. I think the two articles should be kept separate, because "expert" and "editor" mean slightly different things, "editor" being an official position given to experts. Thus, we can distinguish between things that experts do simply as experts and things that editors do as a result of their official powers. Assuring high quality in approved articles is an editor job. So, for this article, I think Daniel and Howard are right:

• The Citizendium community shall recognize the special role that experts play
  • in defining content standards in their relevant fields and
  • in guiding content development towards reliability and quality.

-Joe Quick 13:43, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

• Agreed. Howard C. Berkowitz 14:52, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
• Okay Agreed. D. Matt Innis 17:18, 19 July 2010 (UTC) Interesting distinction between expert and editor, but do you think it is obvious to others?