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Party Hard Hayford

Hey hey Hayford! Nice to see you join the partiers. Sorry I put you out on the porch. Not usual for me to be a stickler for rules at a party. --Ian Johnson 14:15, 1 August 2007 (CDT)

massala masala

in the US masala may be more frequently used, the original name however is massala. I prefer the original name — in no matter what language (as long as I can read and pronounce it :)) ) Robert Tito |  Talk  23:43, 1 August 2007 (CDT)

connait ton français

potage = soup Robert Tito |  Talk  23:58, 1 August 2007 (CDT)

Party catering?

Hayford--next party I look forward to seeing what new food and drinks you will bring along. Based on your exotic contributions in such areas it should be quite interesting. --Ian Johnson 14:51, 2 August 2007 (CDT)

Boxing

Thanks for the corrections in the boxing article, you're certainly correct on both counts. I threw in the bit about "boxing ears" on a whim, as I'm not quite sure how to cite the absence of the phrase in modern usage. Andrew Chong 13:54, 5 August 2007 (CDT)

Lead-In sentence "Systems theory > Notes"

Hayford: I took your advice and segregated the lead-in sentence into several smaller sentences. See Tom Mandel's Talk page (Discussion tab). Thanks for the useful feedback. --Anthony.Sebastian (Talk) 14:01, 12 August 2007 (CDT)

Authors writing about relatives

Hello Hayford! You may be interested to know that I tried to kick off a discussion about this subject at http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/CZ:Weekly_Wiki#Authors_writing_articles_about_relatives. I quoted at length from your contributions to the Tale Ognenovski case. Hope you can join the discussion! Best wishes, Matthias Röder 07:36, 15 August 2007 (CDT)

Boldly going to breakfast

That was nice Hayford - dining a la Francaise whilst thinking of the 'Full English'. Napoleon would surely have approved. ;) --Ian Johnson 17:11, 31 August 2007 (CDT)

Hats for drinking

Hi Hayford: responded at my place. Aleta Curry 18:14, 5 September 2007 (CDT)

Okay--since you're the resident cocktail person--is a kahlua-and-cream properly called a cocktail, since it doesn't have distilled spirits? Or just a "mixed drink"? Aleta Curry 18:41, 5 September 2007 (CDT)

Hmmm, I never thought of *that*. I'll research it a trifle. By the way, my first novel, Napoleon Disentimed, concerns the invention of Champagne in an alternate universe by my rascally hero, The McNair of McNair, when he isn't involved in impersonating Napoleon during his "Missing Years". It's Reichian orgones (I believe) that are responsible for the bubbles. At least in the sequel, they are.... Hayford Peirce 18:48, 5 September 2007 (CDT)

Jack Crawford

Just fixed this page. Your problem was the absense of the Template:Jack Crawford/Metadata page. The subpages need that information to function correctly. Chris Day (talk) 13:11, 8 September 2007 (CDT)

I have left the categories blank for you to fill in. Chris Day (talk) 13:12, 8 September 2007 (CDT)

updating old articles to subpages

Just saw you were updating some articles but I noted that you were redoing the checklist from scratch. At least i assume so since the metadata you added conflicted with the checklist you had added previously on the talk page. In fact, you can just copy and paste the old checklist into the new metadata page. The fields are identical and this speeds things up a bit.

As far as the easiest way to do this is concerned I have found myself doing the following.

1. Copy the exact name of the original article.
2. Go to "Start article" link in the side bar and find the link to "Start a new article, with subpages" in the upper middle part of the page.
3. Click on that link, then create the metadata template page by adding the exact article name to the pagename field at top in Step 1. Then follow the rest of the instructions and SAVE.
4. Go back to the original article.
5. Click the tab that links to the Discussion page for that articlr. Enter Edit mode. Copy the fields from the checklist. Delete the checklist and add {{subpages9}} to the top of the page. SAVE.
6. Click the metadata template link at the bottom of the checklist. Scroll down and create a blank space. Paste in the checklist fields that you have Copied into the metadata template blank space. Then select all fields from acb to cat3 and paste in (or copy in by typing) the old checklist data. Delete all the checklist date that you imported from the original article and remove any extra blank space you may have initially created. SAVE.
7. Click on the "Main Article" link at the top left of the page. Enter Edit mode and add {{subpages9}} to the top of the page.
8. Clean up: You can delete all the categories at the bottom of the article. Then SAVE.
9. You're done. :)

I hope this helps, let me know if you run into problems Chris Day (talk) 12:54, 9 September 2007 (CDT)

You read my mind. i was about to ask you to improve those instruction based on your experience with Bill Tilden. Thanks. Chris Day (talk) 14:23, 9 September 2007 (CDT)

Cuisine/Catalogs/French cuisine

With regard to the above article, as I mentioned to Chris Day too, Can we do French cuisine/Catalogs instead as I am going to write articles about each regional cuisine.

Why don't you check out Talk:Cuisine amd see what Larry has to say there. Then you and Larry work out some sort of overall plan. I don't want to do anything more in this area until all the guidelines are in place. Hayford Peirce 11:31, 10 September 2007 (CDT)

In Talk:Cuisine, where larry is talking about 'top level articles' he mean the most general and important articles. He doesn't mean physically at the top of the subpage clusters. Subpages clusters aren't categories. Derek Harkness 07:27, 11 September 2007 (CDT)

Ah. Well, go ahead and set things up any way you want. Hayford Peirce 13:47, 11 September 2007 (CDT)

I just made some changes with respect to location to the French and Belgian cuisine catalogs. See if that works. Chris Day (talk) 14:53, 11 September 2007 (CDT)

Thanks Chris. I'm quite technically minded but even I am still trying to get my head round this subpage template. We're going to have to work on making this process much more simple. Derek Harkness 19:41, 11 September 2007 (CDT)

I'm hoping that there will be a script and everything gets created in one go. It seems like that would be easy, non-programmer that I am ;) Chris Day (talk) 16:21, 12 September 2007 (CDT)

Special symbols link

That may have become a casulaty with the recent page moves. I'll try to fix it tonight, remind me if I forget.  —Stephen Ewen (Talk) 14:26, 10 September 2007 (CDT)

Hayford Peirce

Hey, we're all going to Tahiti! Larry said something about a research vacation! --Matt Innis (Talk) 07:39, 13 September 2007 (CDT)

typical linguist

[1] --Matt Innis (Talk) 14:40, 13 September 2007 (CDT)

thanks for the workgroup additions

Where can I find some of your writings? Sci-Fi fan (note the hyphen...). Scarce in SA.

Lee R. Berger 13:13, 14 September 2007 (CDT)

Good job on Gottfried, I was just about to adjust his status too. Chris Day (talk) 17:26, 14 September 2007 (CDT)

dogs as food

well, OK but PLEASE no recipes or illustrations. :) Richard Jensen 00:22, 20 September 2007 (CDT)

Wikipedia has illustrations for cooked dog meat, and it looks no different from pork really. I never tried it despite dog meat was easily accessible in where I used to live. Yi Zhe Wu 22:19, 25 September 2007 (CDT)

Ham

Ham would be a fun article. :-)  —Stephen Ewen (Talk) 19:20, 25 September 2007 (CDT)

Yeah, then we can do Pigs as pets! --Matt Innis (Talk) 21:19, 25 September 2007 (CDT)

Or Pigs in Space! :-D  —Stephen Ewen (Talk) 22:15, 25 September 2007 (CDT)

And people wonder why I don't watch TV or follow contemporary culture....Hayford Peirce 22:45, 25 September 2007 (CDT)

Waldo photo

Here ya go. —Stephen Ewen (Talk) 18:51, 28 September 2007 (CDT)

Waldo Peirce around 1960.© Photo: Michael Peirce

Where's Waldo?

I see all of this discussion about Waldo Peirce all over the place. I'm intrigued and ready to learn more, but the article is still empty (and I couldn't resist the section title). Where have you hidden illustrious forebear? --Joe Quick (Talk) 16:17, 6 October 2007 (CDT)

Aha! Now I see why I couldn't find it. It's a subpage of the article about you, not of your userpage, which is where I was looking for it. The description of the Silver Slipper painting caught my eye - I made it a point to go to Sloppy Joe's when I was in Key West a few years ago. :-) --Joe Quick (Talk) 17:41, 6 October 2007 (CDT)

Mystery writers

Gosho Aoyama created the popular mystery manga "case closed", does that make him a "mystery writer"? or a "mystery painter" :-) Yi Zhe Wu 21:32, 6 October 2007 (CDT)

Manga artist, unless he just wrote the dialog/story and didn't illustrate. In that case I'd classify him as a "mystery writer". --Robert W King 18:35, 7 October 2007 (CDT)

Too big

Image:Hemingway Time Cover by Waldo Peirce.jpg was way too big for any fair use claim. I reduced it. Are you intending to show off primarily the artwork or the cover? One idea is to thumbnail the cover and cut out the artwork and make that larger.  —Stephen Ewen (Talk) 17:33, 8 October 2007 (CDT)

I also lightened the image. It looks better on my screen, does it yours?  —Stephen Ewen (Talk) 17:34, 8 October 2007 (CDT)

Hat photos

I know you have scads of food photos, but for article Hat, I'd like hat pictures if you have 'em! --Robert W King 20:52, 18 October 2007 (CDT)

Gallery templat

{{Gallery}}

Stephen Ewen 23:44, 18 October 2007 (CDT)

Cap'n Emdash wants you to join his crew!

Yarrrr!

--Joe Quick 14:19, 22 October 2007 (CDT)

Tennis

Thanks for your message. As Tennis is about to become Article of the Week, I decided to clean it up a little. It's not in bad shape at all, though. W.r.t. "type of something", this is a clear grammatical rule in the English that I know :-) However, I am not competent to say anything about US English. I also changed appearances of the word out to "out", since it is a rather different usage. I have gone through only the first half of the article, as I left to cook a meal. Now I have to finish writing a research proposal, which is rather more urgent than editing the CZ article.

By the way, I have changed my mind about the em-dash: I was confsuing it with en-dash, which does take spaces before and after. In fact, I had never encountered the em-dash before using CZ ! --Martin Baldwin-Edwards 16:02, 23 October 2007 (CDT)

Please go ahead and clean up the article, as well. As far as "types of" is concerned, I think you found an exception to the rule:-) This is because "man" has a species meaning which includes women, so for gender specificity we need the plural form. Actually, I don't think it is such a terrible mistake to say "three types of houses" etc, but it is wrong. --Martin Baldwin-Edwards 16:25, 23 October 2007 (CDT)

Hayford, what do you think of putting the list of Doubles Players in another catalog of Great Doubles Players? If yes, I will create the catalog location for you -- it seems that nobody else has got the hang of that, yet LOL. So msg me on my page, if interested. --Martin Baldwin-Edwards 23:08, 24 October 2007 (CDT)

Spelling pronunciation

Hello, seen you around before!

This is the start of a piece I wrote some time ago, using accents instead of the International Phonetic Alphabet. Shall I just put it in as it is, & then we can continue editing it with the IPA? Robert Thorpe 13:18, 25 October 2007 (CDT)

When I was an fresh young English teacher I came across a group whose reaction to the IPA (when I used it on the board) was the same as yours ('what IS that??!!?'). Of course non-linguists don't want it. So I never used it again; instead developed an accent system, which worked well in pronunciation drills, wrote a book based on the accents, but couldn't get it published, hence the situation I mentioned. Anyway, I think I'll put it in like that & we can thrash it around.

Ken Rosewall was my favourite. Robert Thorpe 13:40, 25 October 2007 (CDT)

Of course the Brits go mad about tennis for a fortnight & then forget about all it for 11.5 months, and even more so in those days. I had to type it in to find out who Gorgo was - & there was your article. Only saw him at the tail-end, especially the epic with Pasarell. Segura I never saw, but when I developed a two-hander his name was mentioned. Of course I was talked out of the 2-hander (thus ruining promising etc.), largely because of my parents' devotion to KRR & his backhand - & of course he never won it, mainly because of the 'evil thumper' Newcombe. Have you looked on WP at Rosewall recently? I put in a few links and organised it a bit after you left.

I'll put in my stuff with the accents, then, and try to fit your bit in appropriately. I'll have to edit out the 'correct' though (I'd put a smiley but I don't approve of them). Robert Thorpe 15:09, 25 October 2007 (CDT)

Nice Siamese you've got there, by the way. We've had quite a few in the past, not rare at all in Portugal. In fact one of ours is half-Siamese - & the other 2 strays - Robert Thorpe 15:16, 25 October 2007 (CDT)

Yes, I enjoyed reading your Segura article. Two points: 'Long before Open era of tennis' – shouldn't that be 'the Open era'? Or is that US usage? And I'm puzzled about the man himself. 'A devastating two-handed forehand': forehand? I always assumed it was a backhand, like Cliff Drysdale or JC Barclay. Or was he two-handed on both sides like Frew McMillan? Perhaps the 2-hander was a variation & he usually played a one-handed forehand? I don't know which seems more likely.

There's a nice picture of a Tonkin in Wikipedia, which looks just like a Siamese, but then I suppose it would. When we lived in Guimarães in the 80s, Eva and I briefly had a Gato birmanês (I tried to link it but it took me no further than 'Gato doméstico'; please try typing it in the Port. Wikipédia). A semi-longhaired version, I could never find out the name in English, while Burmese is something else. Perhaps you could enlighten me after all these years. Robert Thorpe 17:04, 26 October 2007 (CDT)

Just read Tilden. So he was gay! Amazing! Robert Thorpe 17:28, 26 October 2007 (CDT)

Birman - that's it! Robert Thorpe 17:38, 26 October 2007 (CDT)

Pancho Segura, etc.

So Segoo had a 2-handed forehand & a 1-handed backhand? He really does sound delightfully weird. Yes, more Kramer quotes. (Him I do remember, as a commentator, initially.) So how about importing Rosewall, then?

Tucson is Mountain Standard Time, right? So that’s two hours behind the CDT given here? Have you seen my World Alphabetical Time (can't manage the link)? For the arithmetically challenged.

So who is the mysterious & departed Duncharris & why did you edit out his copious biographical material on Wikipedia? Modesty?

Science fiction as done by Evelyn Waugh, sounds good: I recall the ending of A Handful of Dust, that’s rather sci-fi.

Ray Casey – nice article, had never heard of him. But what is a 12-letter man? I may have come across it in novels, I don’t recall. A high school accolade, it is clear from the story of Don J. Burt: perhaps we need you to write the article for us ignorant Brits.

Presumably ‘Birman’ is pronounced like ‘Burman’? - Robert Thorpe 14:01, 27 October 2007 (CDT)