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Project no title case

Many of the page names in CZ space are in Title Case, which is not the way the CZ:Naming conventions policy advises. Some of the pages are redirected to lower-case page names, but some are not; worse, the references to many pages are given in Title Case, and redirected.

I suggest that this sets a bad example, and propose to fix as much of that as I can find. This will involve moving several pages, and following the "What links here" traces on the redirects, to fix the visible refs. A couple of templates will need changing, too (I speak 'template'). I plan to do those as the third step, after any necessary moving of pages they link to. Changing each template only once should minimize the system workload.


  1. Identify all pages to be moved, and templates to be modified, and list them here. (In progress.)
  2. Move pages.
  3. Modify templates.
  4. Start tracing and fixing visible links. There will probably be several hundred of these, but they can be done a little at a time. Many of the existing refs will vanish when the templates are modified.


Hi. Thanks for all your great work, and your comment. I'm at present going through CZ policy pages trying to simplify them and bring them up to date. There's at present a lot of duplication and inconsistency, and lack of clarity; once I'm done I'll revert all my changes and put my new draft on a draft page for the MC/EC to compare and review.

At present we have categories for lists of default subpages - i.e. lists of pages with external links etc. It seemed to me that these were redundant as now all articles have (or should have) external links subpages. So I was going to propose that these were redundant. It will be a proposal, but if there's a good reason to retain them that's fine. I'm very glad you're doing this and thanks for bringing it to my attention - very pleased indeed that someone else's eyes are on this problem area. Gareth Leng 09:19, 8 December 2010 (UTC)