CZ Talk:Workgroup Weeks

From Citizendium, the Citizens' Compendium
Jump to: navigation, search

Experts

I already whacked on CZ:Why should experts join CZ? a fair amount, so I have signed up for that. I could use some guidance on what else we need to say there, etc, etc. CZ Talk:Why should experts join CZ? awaits.... J. Noel Chiappa 19:46, 22 April 2008 (CDT)

Will do. --Larry Sanger 13:15, 23 April 2008 (CDT)

Eduzendium

I think we should probably be approaching departments or department heads to see if they're interested in the program. --Robert W King 12:21, 24 April 2008 (CDT)

Yes, I think that's an excellent idea, and Workgroup Weeks is the perfect time to raise the idea. --Larry Sanger 12:24, 24 April 2008 (CDT)

What else

You know what else might be great? If we had a bot or something that once each week made a post on digg, or reddit, or any of these social networking services of the introduction paragraph to one of our approved articles. Maybe we can even include some kind of digg/reddit/delicious counter that updates in an html comment field in the page source so we know how many times it has been read. --Robert W King 13:13, 24 April 2008 (CDT)

Cool! Like, do it! --Larry Sanger 13:21, 24 April 2008 (CDT)

Also...while I'm planning out the details as you can see...I'm not sure how I would convert your suggestion above into instructions for people. Seems like there would be many steps. You can feel free to jump in there if you want to spell it out. --Larry Sanger 13:23, 24 April 2008 (CDT)

What I'm thinking is, there's a grassroots concept called "microformats" WP article here which supposedly can capture data somewhat autonomously; and I'm pretty sure that Yahoo! Buzz, Digg, del.icio.us, Reddit, and Newsvine all have some kind of interface api which could translate the data we capture and put it on a post. If there's a way to capture the introduction paragraph of each article based on some criteria as defined by the microformat, it might not be that tough to set up some system to make it work. Also, I'm sure that digg and other sites already have the code required to provide feedback on how many times a site has been hit, so it would be just a matter of converting that to some comment code. The only thing is I'm not sure how the returned number of hits/diggs, etc. would get to CZ; I don't know if there could be an external text file that gets parsed or if there would be a required bot to actually update a page. --Robert W King 13:31, 24 April 2008 (CDT)
Here's the "official" microformat page: http://microformats.org/ , and I think we can use this hatom format to designate the intro paragraphs. --Robert W King 14:50, 24 April 2008 (CDT)

Sounds like a technical puzzle to solve, not something that needs central organization as part of "Workgroup Weeks," right? --Larry Sanger 19:15, 24 April 2008 (CDT)

Not at all. Totally technical. --Robert W King 22:59, 24 April 2008 (CDT)

Next steps

Some notes to myself:

"big" websites???

can you further explain, "big" websites? Tom Kelly 22:14, 1 June 2008 (CDT)

For example, for the computers workgroup week are you going to announce on engadget.com, pcmag.com, pcworld.com, tuaw.com, etc etc? Tom Kelly 22:14, 1 June 2008 (CDT)
That's the idea. Obviously, we can't be exhaustive; the Internet is too big. But we can do what we can do, and that could be enough to get gazillions of new people involved here! --Larry Sanger 21:54, 8 June 2008 (CDT)

need a list of every United States University, Community College, library, and K-12 School District with contact info

If we generate this list now, it would be useful later

To me, the ideal way of spreading the word is having a GO-TO contact at each setting listed above. Otherwise, outside email addresses may not make it past spam filters. And unless we have a human who is subscribed to each list serve, we won't know if the emails are actually going through. I think we should also recruit high school teachers more actively. They often want to take a VEG-OUT break (even though they are overworked and underpaid). Thoughts? Tom Kelly 19:08, 8 June 2008 (CDT)

Yes, that's all sound analysis. But now--let's try to make such things happen! --Larry Sanger 21:56, 8 June 2008 (CDT)

Is there a subpage started with a list? Lets just start making a list of colleges in the US. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_institutions_of_higher_education

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_medical_schools_in_the_United_States

What about a list of libraries?

a start - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_libraries

Where can we put this on CZ? or start from scratch and use it as a guide? Tom Kelly 17:45, 9 June 2008 (CDT)

Well, I'd like to see more thinking-through. What precisely will we do with any such list? --Larry Sanger 22:23, 10 June 2008 (CDT)

Things to be decided upon

In preparation for CZ:Biology Week, I have compiled a list of pending decisions that I expect to affect the exact implementation of the week (and follow-ups), and the larger part thereof seems to be on the CZ end at the moment. Please take a look and comment. Thanks! -- Daniel Mietchen 03:13, 9 June 2008 (CDT)

I commented on the talk page; the date of the week has been set, so we'll do what we can before that date. I don't think we should move the date based on our ability to be "perfectly prepared." There's no such thing. --Larry Sanger 22:19, 10 June 2008 (CDT)

need for extra constables during workgroup weeks 24/7

I'm sure if we advertise big enough, we will get people signing up for workgroup week to try and spoil it with vandalism, etc.

We will need a massive constable effort during the first rounds of workgroup week.

We may want to recruit more constables so we can have them on 24-7. Tom Kelly 17:51, 9 June 2008 (CDT)

We will if we need them. Right now, we can't really anticipate a need at a level we can't handle with current forces; if you disagree, ask the Constabulary. But I do think it wouldn't be a bad idea, on general principles, to get one or two more people on board, as a cushion. --Larry Sanger 22:21, 10 June 2008 (CDT)

are we going to do this again

If we aren't going to try to organize any more workgroup weeks, then the link should probably come off the front page... -Joe Quick 23:16, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

I was just wondering if anyone was going to try to organize this again. It's a good idea but I don't think we are anywhere near the critical mass needed yet. I would argue that pushing the eduzendium project might be better off than workgroup weeks until we have a bigger name, more authors/editors, and more readers. Tom Kelly 05:22, 4 April 2009 (UTC)